Non-Filipino Views on Tim Cumper

  

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COMMENTS FROM THE WORLD OF FILIPINAS FORUM

Posted by DrDisk on The World of Filipinas:

I had a chance to read the entire blog, before he retreated behind the “invite only”.

This guy felt it was OK to go the Philippines, while married back in the UK, and engage
a filipina in a relationship that he had no intentions of ever pursuing.

SHAME ON HIM !!

He got the young lady pregnant, and then to weazle out of paying for the complicated
pregnancy, he then decides he is being scammed.

Reading the blog, only shows his stupidity and lack of understanding what one can expect
from dealings in the Philippines.

In all reality, he was the SCAMMER, and in my opinion he deserves whatever legal actions
all the harmed parties bring on him.

I hope he has no intentions of ever returning to the Philippines, but then again it would
be kind of funny if he did and finds out what happens to him.

(…)

Ellumbra,

You show NO proof that any scam ever took place.
All it is your belief, and wild imagination.

If you expect rational people to believe you, then show actual proof.

I have seen your type come to the Philippines, steal a girl’s heart, and
disappear into the night. Your type is despicable.

You somehow think you have the right to accuse innocent people of some
very serious charges. Yet, you feel you are exempt from the same scrutiny.

Open your blog if you feel you have nothing to hide. Or can we compare you
to a cockroach, that runs and hides when exposed to daylight?

Also, within this forum, I am sure we can find someone to go meet with
Mayen, and prove to you that everything she said is 100% true. Then
what would be your reply? We are part of the “conspiracy” to scam you out
of your money.

Get a grip!

(…)

connected to the scammers?

Now I know, and several people on this board know that I am NOT connected in any way
to the scammers.

You have proven by that statement to be so paranoid and delusional and that every word
you write or say has to be questioned as to its truthfulness.

You need some serious help, please get it before it gets worse.

Ok with me if you ignore me.

(…)

I think ellumbra is enjoying all the attention he is getting.
He has little or no regard for anyone but himself.

I put him in the same class as a Troll. He likes to generate
controversy and see the results.

Any effort to rationally communicate with him is met with some
far out theory and very evasive answers.

He is a reason for the young ladies to attend CFO.

It was probably a blessing to Mayen that he decided to end
the relationship, even though he had to destroy her reputation
and drag her friends into a bizzare story concocted in his mind.

His story is by far the wildest I have ever read on the internet.

Posted by niteguy on The World of Filipinas:

Hello ellumbra

I read you blog, but didn’t feel the need to comment because I didn’t think you were around here. I really saw no evidence of you being scammed. I know you thought the scar was faked based on your friends blowing up the picture and his enhancement of the image, but I can make you see anything when I enhance an image. If its not there in the original picture, enhancement is only a guess of the operator of the software. And why did you not put that image on the sight? What makes me think you messed up thinking you were getting scammed, was seeing her on a cam later and she showed you the scar again. WAs she sitting there every day refreshing a drawn on scar? The unchanging IPs occuring earlier would have said something. But having it occur after you had essentially burned her, her family, and her coworkers, rather badly (assuming there was no scam), a little screwing around back on you might not be an uncommon reaction. And even then she was not asking for money. She may have been trying to play a guilt game to get you come back to her.

I’m not saying you were not getting scammed, I really just saw no evidence of it in your writings, just a lot of fears of being scammed. And if you worry about something enough, if you give a thing a name enough, you can damn well make it happen. Too much just doesn’t ring true of what your typical scammer would try to pull. Taking you home to the family certainly isn’t even close to the norm unless a woman really cares for you. And there are just too many opportunities you gave that I could not see a scammer not biting on.

You may have made a big mistake, you may have saved yourself to. I think only God knows at this point.

(…)

ellumbra you are using circular logic. Or should I say non-logic. Anyone who points out flaws or lack of facts is on the scam. You consider your own opinions as facts and expect others to accept your opinions as facts also or they have some devious motive. Seriously your actions and writings left me with more questions about you than her. Like I’ve mentioned, you could have been getting scammed, but your massively long blog did not give any evidence, only your own speculations. What evidence you did claim to have, you never put on the blog to be seen.

If you’re going to go around claiming businesses and people of being involved in an organized scam crime ring, you should at least post evidence rather than opinion. There are scam rings in the Philippines. There are scammers that will take you blind. We see postings of them pretty regular here and we tend to see the same type of things. And they are suckers just as you were, walking in letting your dick lead your and your mind turned off. But I really didn’t see where you had any evidence that you did walk into a scam, although you were totally ripe to be taken by one. A real scam ring would have gotten you those receipts so fast your head would have spun. Getting any business to respond that fast is damn near impossible in the Philippines, and thats if they ever respond at all. Sorry you must talk to in charge. Sorry in charge is not in. In charge will be here next week, next month, next year. Sorry we haven’t seen in charge in two years. And try to get a first world hospital to email the information you asked for. It would NEVER happen. They’d be breaking every privacy right there is in the first world. But you think not getting a hospital to email you immediately billing and personal information is evidence? There’s more holes than ground in your story. Still it doesn’t mean you were not getting scammed, but throwing enough bullshit on the wall hoping some will stick doesn’t prove it to anyone with a critical mind.

Posted by MrkGrismer on The World of Filipinas:

Ellumbra, there are a few steps a wise person goes through when investigating if something might be a scam:

1) Search the internet to see if others are already aware of the sam. If they are trying to scam you then chances are they are trying to scam, or have already scammed others. But when the internet is searched for this scam, the only thing that turns up is stuff from you. It appears that nobody else in the entire world

2) Don’t open yourself up to be scammed. Don’t send money; and don’t open yourself up to obligations or anything that could give the suspected scammers leverage over you. CERTAINLY don’t have unprotected sex with a girl you think might scam you.

3) Stay aware and communicate your concerns to people who you trust. Find multiple viewpoints especially if you think your judgement may be impaired. Especially try to bounce things off impartial people.

4) When involved in a cross-cultural relationship. Try to learn about the culture you are dealing with, when something seems odd try to find out if it might be a difference in culture rather then a ’sign of a scam.’

5) Make sure that you have your life in order. This goes hand-in-hand with #2. If you don’t have your life in order then you are both more open to being scammed and more open to suspecting wrong-doing out of innocent actions.

Now, reading your blog there are a couple of things I’d like to comment on here. (quotes are in blue)

You state at the beginning that you were still married, and that

It all started with a growing discontent – at the rut I was in.
My wife and I had been steadily drifting apart for too many years.
Happy in my work, but tired, really tired of being financially drained every month – life was seemingly going nowhere.
The mortgage hung around my neck like a slab of concrete – the house became a burden, not a home.

You were not only unhappy with your marriage, but with your entire life. It appears you were already becoming obsessed with your finances. What were your expectations? Did you really think that having an affiar while you were still married was going to somehow lift your financial burden? Here the seeds for you to see scams where none might exist are already planted.

Out of the blue – cyberspace is blue you know – I received an invitation from a young Filipino girl to become friends on Friendster. She was very pretty, as indeed a great many of them are – we started an exchange of communication. Before too long, I started to suspect that I was about to be scammed for money – he, he – I’ve read and I’m sure you’ve heard tales of the sort of behaviour that goes on – so I cut off communication.

Here you don’t state that there was any attempt to scam you out of money. Instead, you are sure that a scam will be attempted. Why? Because you were contacted ‘out of the blue’? Because she was a young Filipino girl? It appears already that you are somewhat paranoid about being scammed, and your solution is to cut off communication with somebody that has given no indication of attempting to scam you in order to avoid the possibility. As a person reads your blog, this appears to be a pattern with you.

This all had to proceed very secretively – I was certain that my marriage had come to an end – I wanted to move on, release the capital that was tied up in the house – but I wasn’t prepared to burn my bridges completely at this stage, so secrecy was imperative.
I sold some shares to raise the air fare, arranged for a dear friend to purchase the tickets online – all untraceable to my bank account – very devious goings on – and all the time, I was feeling so much love in my heart – praising God regularly for this miracle – yes, things even improved at home – well they do if you’re feeling love in your heart, don’t they.

Here you are carrying on as if you are kind of ’scamming’ your wife. It is all done in secret, hiding it from your wife and trying to make things ‘untraceable.’ The thing is, as you involve yourself in all this ‘cloak-and-dagger’ stuff you find out for yourself how ‘easy’ it can be, and you also plant in your own mind the ideas that if you can do it, so can others, and it can be done to you. This probably fed your growing paranoia. A untrustworthy person is less likely to trust others, because they assume other people are the same as themself.

A definite landmark in this period came when she sent me her cellphone number, in an effort to quell my doubts and fears about who she really was – it is impossible across the internet to know for certain – and once faith and trust are put aside, even for a moment – it can all start to turn upside down.

I doubt that she gave you her cellphone number and said “This is an effort to quell your doubts and fears about who I really am.” You are putting motivations to her actions based upon your own state of mind. Since you are being deceitful in your actions, you expect it from others. Thus the reason she gave you here cellphone number must be part of some nefarious plot. It couldn’t be because she wants to hear your voice, and for you to hear hers.

The intervening time was rather painful – on several fronts. I started to feel a dreadful ambiguity – on the one hand I really wanted this to be genuine, I prayed that it would turn out as it appeared to promise to my heart. But on the other hand, what if I arrived at Manila to find the whole thing a big scam – finding someone unrecognisable there meeting me? Compounding the horror of this dichotomy – no matter how much I tried, I could not communicate this fear any more strongly than the subtlest of hints – virtually undetectable hints – without it becoming very insulting. Trying to get to the truth across the internet is well nigh impossible – words are cheap and honesty is indistinguishable from deceit.

Again, you are talking yourself into more paranoia. You feel it is impossible to trust this person, so how could she ever dispell your fears? I am sure that we all had such fears when we first went to visit our significant others. I certainly did. I knew in the back of my head that the entire thing ‘could’ all be an elaborate plot. But I also knew by then it was a somewhat small chance. When I showed up in Manila and she was there, and nobody kidnapped me I let all my fears about that pretty much disappear.

What brought this issue to a head was the fact that I was recommended a hotel that was newly built and had no internet presence. Best advice is always to leave word with a friend of where exactly one is staying when abroad, especially in circumstances like this – I could find no trace. I even went as far as contacting the British Embassy in Manila – they wrote back saying “We are unable to confirm the existence of this hotel.”
“Great” I thought – “I’m walking right into a scam” – so I confronted the poor girl with my fears, spilling out all my doubts and suspicions – it was a great relief. After initially getting angry & upset at my wavering trust – she eventually saw the funny side – me fearing for my life – kidnapping – extortion – entrapment. Well it does happen you know.

She probably recommended the hotel because it is newly built and thus much more likely to be comfortable for a foreigner. You later confirm that this was a good choice for her because you said you liked that hotel especially when compared to the old hotel that you would later stay in. But here your fears about the hotel wound up being completely untrue. Foreshadowing perhaps? Or a miniture view of what your entire story is; you being paranoid about things that you find suspicious that wind up not being anything to be concerned about?

During a discussion about decorating the house – my wife discovers that I am planning on selling up – she immediately, intuitively jumps to the conclusion that I have met somebody else – wow! I cannot deny it, confess everything – except the proposed trip – shh! that’s still a secret – well it was. Even that secret seems about to be exposed – due to a phone call that I received at Heathrow, the day I returned – waiting for my connecting flight back to Jersey.

Again, you show that you are involved in the trade of deception. Your entire trip is a secret; a secret that is in jeapordy of being exposed. Secrets all around! Everybody has secrets! The paranoia builds.

I am so convinced that destiny is about to reveal someone very special – I float around for the remainder of the time before the trip.
I have managed some secret shopping on my previous visit to Jersey, so all that I’ll need for the trip is over there – anti-malaria tablets, cool clothes, a new suitcase etc.
Hectic exchanges over the internet approaching d-day. My wife digs her claws in at my plans to sell the house – refuses to divorce, refuses to sell the house. All is doomed as far as I’m concerned – with no money to buy a property in the Philippines or start a business – both have been discussed – I might as well not bother going. Things go dreadfully quiet and tension in me mounts for a couple of days – waiting to hear the verdict from afar and I am more than relieved to hear back that she is still interested in meeting me – despite my seeming poverty now.

What were your plans? To sell the house, abandon your wife and abscond to the Philippines to live with your new girlfriend? Who is the one doing the scamming here?

So – the time arrives – first I have two days in Jersey, I fly back to Heathrow Sunday evening – I’m being hidden away at a friend’s house while I wait for my flight late on Monday. Getting off the bus from the airport in my local town where my friend is to meet me – who should go sailing by in her car? Yes – my wife. Fortunately I had made myself invisible as I stepped off the bus.

Oops! Your scam was almost discovered! Paranoia increases.

Now – this morning, walking to catch the tricycle, Mayen looked at me and said, quite simply “Timmy, I will sleep with you tonight – I missed you last night,” quite matter of fact.

This appears to be on the fourth or fifth night of your visit (difficult to ascertain). This also seems to be something that your hindsight and paranoia has turned into her trying to entrapt you into a “Honey Pot” scam. It is my understanding that until this night she has left you in the hotel by yourself. Notice here that she is saying that she will sleep with you, because she missed you while away. She didn’t say that she will have sex with you. Again, your own mind probably added that. Once in bed together one thing probably led to another. You don’t say how agressive you were in bed (and we would all probably not want to really know).

I meet his colleague George Mendoza – a big time broker and we all discuss the possibility of me getting a website in the UK as an outlet for Tierra Maria Estates – strangely echoing thoughts I had much earlier when contemplating Mayen coming to the UK.

This shows that some of your true intentions are to make money from this trip. Again, your own motivations cause you to question the motivations of others.

I said I’d buy Mayen a ring – a token – there are not too many to choose from but we both like one depicting two intertwining hearts – but I’ve not enough cash and can’t draw any more – so that idea gets put aside for a while.

A strange comment. Financial difficulties already?

Mayen has already started discussing our ideas for a business – one of our ideas was to open an air-conditioned supermarket. My initial concern was that we should not be responsible for putting out of business any of the small shops already there – many of which already seemed to be stocking the same sort of goods. Mayen’s father suggests that one of the better business opportunities in that area is in coconut farming – for the copra business.

Again, your concern for trying to find a way to make money from this situation. Perhaps you are trying to figure out a way that you can support yourself and your new girlfriend once you abandon your wife and abscond to the Philippines?

After dropping her off, the discussion turns seriously to talk of business – in particular the copra trade – I mention the cost of living back in the UK to try to put any capital that I get from the sale of the house in perspective – it wouldn’t go very far there at all -whereas, over here, it could possibly set us up with home and business – with some to spare.

Plots and more plots.

I don’t care that Mayen managed to drain me of all my money – I gave her all that was left over – anyway – “mine” is an illusion – an attitude that denies abundance. I was a willing participant

So at some level you know that you were at least a willing participant. Yet your words here still show that you hold her responsible for ‘draining all your money’. Here you appear to be avoiding responsibility, and again you seem to be extending yourself beyond your own financial capabilities.

I’ve no idea how it would be were I poor and pennyless – but as it is – it works – and it works beautifully.
I hate the feeling of being the Big White King – the Golden Goose – being fleeced for all they can get – I loathe the undue respect that the exchange rate affords me. I will never be one of them – even when I marry – I will always be the outsider – they will always put blood before paper – but I do want to be a part of that world – a part of Mayen’s life – I want to share her paradise – for that is how it is, in her province – unspoilt as it has been for years.
“Progress” may be slow in coming – but it will come eventually – at the moment there is no internet there, hardly even a telephone line – water supply is crude, power intermittent and unreliable – but the important aspects of life they have in abundance – such a wealth of spirit, of joy – a natural happiness.
I want to start a business there with my beloved – start a family.

This particular part is very revealing. It shows that you think of yourself as ‘the Big White King’ and you believe that all of them are fleecing you for all that they can get. You are also showing your thoughts about absconding to the Philippines. At this time, you are still married from what I can tell.

I receive a call from a work colleague enquiring after a contact number – I can’t really help, I tell him, I’m at Heathrow airport waiting to go to Jersey.
I didn’t realise, but he had also left a message on the answer machine at my home which was intercepted by my wife. I don’t know what she’s been thinking – my last contact was a text message – sent as a last resort really, just before I flew to Manila – telling her that I would not be home until 7th July (a fortnight later than she had expected) and that my phone would be off – I needed time to think. She could make of that what she would – hopefully just presume that I was staying on in Jersey for the entire three weeks.

Still keeping secrets. Still scamming the wife…

I was surprised, as I expressed in the journey, when out of the blue the relationship with Mayen became physical.
That night I asked her if she was at all concerned about becoming pregnant – should I use contraception, to which she replied that she wasn’t bothered and that she thought I would prefer not to – distinctly giving me the impression that our love was to include the possibility of children – whether sooner or later – which was precisely how I felt at the time – desiring passionately to bring new life through our union.

So it was your choice not to use contraception. You knew what the consequences would be and you chose to accept them. Of course she wasn’t bothered by it, she expected that if she got pregnant you would step up to the plate and do the right thing.

Mayen requests some money to help with the expense of internet cafes, as I am expecting her to chat to me daily if possible. However – Mayen is not feeling well – fever – a stiff neck – very soon the request transforms into a need for money for a health check. Her friend’s brother has been hospitalised with Dengue Fever and she is worried that she might have contracted that, although personally, my perception is that there is something else going on here. The following day I send the money – not an enormous amount for me – but an enormous amount for her to receive.
I learn later that Mayen and her colleagues all ate well on one occasion after collecting the money.

So she might have Dengue Fever, her life could be put in jeapordy and your first instinct is that you are being fleeced? Well, of course, you have already convinced yourself that you are the ‘Big White King’ and that they are all out to fleece you. Did you look into Dengue Fever and how prevelant it is where she was living? Did you look into how dangerous it could be?

I learn from Mayen that she has had the check up – but she thinks that she is showing symptoms of pregnancy – I knew it – and has to go for another checkup . . .

Timmy, I have to go back to the doctor this day coz i felt something unusual.. my fever is gone and stiff neck but i lose my appetite and i keep on vomiting..feel so weak and im delayed, im suspecting that im pregnant huhuhuhu.. but to make sure have to go for check up again.. i’ll just let you know the details after the check up.. I love you..and i mis you a lot my timmyboy..

. . . but it is too early to tell and she is under medical supervision until the 27th – I get the occasional report of morning sickness – loss of appetite – sickness.

Well, gee, you have sex with her multiple times everynight for what, 10-days? You said you were ready to have a family with her, did it happen too quickly? Did you want to get your current wife out of the way first? I notice that you did not say that she asked you for more money for this.

On the Monday Mayen informs me that she is “spotting”. Unsure of what this implies I do a google search – we are still online chatting – and discover that one of the causes could be infection with some types of STD in early pregnancy.
Now – this gets very personal at this point – but in the interests of authenticity I will include the details.
I had discovered what I thought had been early signs of a boil or a spot – squeezed and medicated the area and thought no more about it – until now. Putting those two pieces of information together – alarm bells rang like crazy in my head. Herpes was the number one contender in this case – although the symptoms are varied and sometimes unnoticed – but the major implication was for the health of the suspected baby.
So I passed all this news and information to Mayen. I should go for a check up. We chat on into the early morning – a 5 hour session in all – and my brain is completely fried when we say “bye for now.”

I have a complete breakdown – early in the morning – after the chat session – I can do nothing but lie on my bed, staring at the ceiling – there is no one I can talk to who sees and feels both sides of this as strongly as I do.
I am on my own – contemplating that I have made an enormous mistake in my life – I felt about to be entering a living hell – the cold, menacing spectre descends on me again – this time it doesn’t go away – I’ve thrown away my marriage, my house – destroyed any vestiges of trust I had with my wife – possibly contracted an incurable STD – a pregnant girlfriend whom I love so deeply on the other side of the world – was she lying? Is this all true? I shall have to go underground – change my identity – I envisioned hoards of machette wielding Filipino men coming after me to avenge their family honour.
Working through it all I am left with the strongest feeling – that I would never desert Mayen – carrying our child.

The next day, Mayen denies having an STD – telling me her sexual history – last time was a year ago. Now – hold on a minute – she had told me that she last had a boyfriend two years ago – inconsistency – more alarm bells. (She had told me as well that she met with her old boyfriend in Manila a year ago – not imagining that she’d had a sexual liason at this time – I had forgotten this detail – but this is how the discrepancy was explained away.) The implications that I had even dared to think that Mayen was a “dirty woman” – of loose morals – infected with an STD – resulted in her disappearing into the bathroom – in floods of tears – and there she remained – refusing to answer her cellphone – her colleague, Miss Ann, took over the chat session – and made me feel completely ashamed for my suspicions – telling me “You should love her with heart, mind and soul – she’s too young to be hurt like this . . . ” – always the emotional twisting – never any attempt at calm rationality – in other words – trust your faith in her – blindly.

Your first reaction here, concern for yourself. Oh no! You had large amounts of unprotected sex in a far away land and only now are you starting to concern yourself with the inevitable consequences of that. You start accusing her of all sorts of things. None of them supported by any evidence, all of them seeming to arise from your parnoia and lack of comprehension of things she had already explained to you. Again your fears about an STD turned out to be baseless. But maybe your own doctors are in cohoots with the scammers and you really are infected?

Early Friday morning, 6:30 am after a long discussion with my wife about my fears, I check online to see if there are any messages – I might have a date to keep at the internet cafe at 10:00 am – I can’t use the computer at home for chats – too many interruptions.

A couple of minutes after I log on to the Messenger (something that they can observe discretely by signing in themselves as invisible) I get a call on my cellphone from Mayen – very unusual in itself – what with the cost of international calls.

Too many interruptions from the wife? Again, you show your mounting paranoia by assuming that they are sitting somewhere logged into Yahoo as invisible, just waiting for you to log on so that they can call you.

I take myself out to the park and call Mayen on my cellphone – it’s an Ectopic Pregnancy – I’m passed to someone else, I’m reminded later on that this was the female Doctor, who explains what I already know – back to Mayen – send some money – Sir Francis has paid a P10,000 deposit – groans and sobbing – speak to Sir Francis.
I dash home – in a panic – pick up a business card that Sir Francis gave me – back to the park – I call him up.
“I was just going to ring you” he says “Mayen has given me her phone. Her sister is coming soon.”
We discuss things – my visit – Mayen’s condition – what hospital is she in? Should I try to move my flight earlier?

That is great that he paid the deposit; he seems like a very generous man and cares about his employee very much. How many bosses here (or in the UK) would do that? Of course, your first thoughts appear to be:

But I am worried – somehow – an Ectopic Pregnancy is just too perfect, exactly the right vehicle for extortion from a loving boyfriend – and worth quite a bit of money if it comes off. I am very worried – I do go to town – sit and have a coffee – banks aren’t open yet – and phone my supportive freind.
He is just amazed by this latest twist – tells me to hold on and be rational – he’d suspected all along that I might be being scammed (and so had I) but this latest event just revealed the magnitude of the scam – they were all in on it.

Paranoia again. You know what the best way to avoid that type of scam is? DON’T HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX! If you are going to have unprotected sex, be perpared for the consequences.

Convinced more than ever it is a scam – I phone my friend again – they’re all in on it – hiding behind the Real Estate business – teams of girls – luring Westerners into parting with their money – small amounts by our standards – but multiply that by the amount of girls working for him and the amount of potential “clients” they can each have at any one time – and it adds up to quite a business. Maybe the odd big windfall when the result is a sale of property – remember I was prepared to do all this – buy a condominium – maybe even another one to rent out. They must all be in on the scam – Mayen, Sir Francis, Marivien, Miss Ann, Chots, Adelaide and the people at the hospital. One of the tell tale signs is the purchase of a new cell phone – remember – so that she knows who is calling.

Extreme paranoia here. Again, if it was such a big scam business why has nobody else in the entire world been subjected to it. From what I can tell all of your business plans were your own, motivated by your desire to abandon your terrible life there in the UK and try to abscond to the paradise of the Philippines, to live there without a care in the world.

My only course of action is to completely – from this point of time – cut off all communication.
That night I deleted all her emails, addresses, my profile on the dating site, Mayen’s addition to my Messenger – the only way to get in touch with me that was still available was my cell phone.
I received several calls – I didn’t answer them – voice messages left simply said “Timmy – call me – on my cellphone.”
I was resolute – I was firm – for a whole day. Fortunately I spent the whole day, Saturday, working at a theatre and was busy until late evening. I’d told Mayen of this in an email – so my lack of communication was obviously expected – and mysteriously, despite the “seriousness” of Mayen’s plight, I received nothing from her either.

So, you’ve now gone from wanting to have a family with her in the Philippines to breaking off all contact and abandoning her. This seems like you have a problem with personal responsibility to me. How horrible for her.

I weaken again – this time answering a live call – Mayen asks me what’s going on – I turn the question around – “You tell me ” I said “I’m worried.” This continued without her giving me any information – until she upped the action ” What are you doing to me . . ? ” and burst into tears – uncontrolably – her sister Adelaide takes over the phone (perhaps Mayen’s visit to her was to rehearse the script) – a brief exchange – the phone goes dead.

You’ve gotten her pregnant, discussed your plans to move there and start a business and raise a family with her and now you are completely cutting off communication and abandoning her when she needs you most. Yet you don’t understand why she is upset by this? You then spend large amounts of time making unrealistic requests that her boss furnish you with ‘proof’ of the hospitlization. Even tho Mayen herself already offered to send you all the documentation via DHL if you would only give her your address, yet you state that you refused to given her your address. What do you expect? I have to say that Sir Frances has large amounts of patience, and I have to say I agree with his email to you:

What do you want me to do? Your problem with Mayen can only be solved by yourself and her. I have advanced money, I have requested the hospital to get directly in touch with you, Vien and myself have given you all the facts of the case, I don’t understand this particular email.
You said you were coming and you did not. Your best bet is to get in touch with the doctor to help you. I am not in a position to help you any further.

On Sunday 19th August I receive the following information from Sir Francis – and reply to him that I am dealing with it urgently.

Tim,

Hereunder are the answers to your first three requests:
1) Dra. Leonor Leonardo, physician no.******, CP **********, email- *****@*******
2) Dr. Reynaldo S. Dizon, anesthesiologist *****, email- *****@******
3) Ma. Ana Samson Betita, patient no. 51546-2007

Dra. Leonardo, per Vien and Mayen is the main cooperator to your requirements ( I understand she was the source of above answers) and is willing to help facilitate your requests 6 and maybe give more answers to your questions 4 & 5. I’m copy furnishing both doctors with your email and this reply of mine.

We discover that the two doctors named appear to be resident at the Medical Center Paranaque – on the hospital website it is possible to access a further page of details for a few names on the list.
Seeing as we were being pointed towards Dr Leonardo – we decided to write to Dr Dizon – another reason for this was that we discovered an alternative email address for Dr Dizon – so the plan was to send our email to the address provided by Sir Francis and ask for confirmation using the email address that we had found.
A good plan – but the confirmation email was bounced back – failed to deliver.
We sent the same list of questions to Dr Leonardo – but have never had a reply.
Dr Dizon did reply however – although, in our opinion, very unprofessionally – and a lot of the questions we asked were left unanswered.

Sunday 19th August
Dear Dr. Reynaldo S. Dizon,
My name is Tim Cumper – I understand that you will be expecting an enquiry from me regarding the operation for an Ectopic Pregnancy at 7 weeks gestation – which was performed at the Medical Center Paranaque on Friday 10th August at some time in the afternoon.
I am being held responsible for paying the patient’s bill.
I am more than willing to meet my obligation in this matter.
However because of the very strange procrastination that has been taking place around the method of payment I am suspecting that I have become involved in an organised fraud.
My reasons for writing to you are to ask you please to confirm the following information.
* You are Dr. Reynaldo S. Dizon.
* Your licence number is 57066.
* You were the anesthesiologist for the above operation.
* You have submitted an invoice for your work and the amount corresponds with that shown below.
* Would you please transmit to us a copy of the above invoice?
* You assisted Dra. Leonor Leonardo as the operating surgeon for the above.
* The patient’s name was Ma.Ana Samson Betita.
* By which name is the patient referred to by her friends?
* The patient’s Hospital ID number is 51546-2007.
* The patient is still being detained in the hospital subject to her hospital bill being paid.
* Is the patient being detained for any other reason?
* Why has the hospital not yet contacted me at all?
* Which surgical or medical procedure was used in the operation? eg. Laporoscopy etc.
* Had the Fallopian Tube ruptured?
* From the patient’s perspective – was it the left or the right Fallopian?
* What is your relationship to Francis M. Jalbuena?
* Could you provide an estimate of costs to the present time?
Please can I stress the urgent nature of these enquiries and humbly ask you for a rapid reply.
Thanking you kindly in anticipation.
Yours sincerely.
Mr Timothy Ellis Cumper
UK

His reply arrived promptly on Monday 20th August – this is all that was said.

Yes,I am the anesthesiologist of Ma.Ana Samson Betita.She was brought to the operating room in severe pain.She was sedated and was given analgesics thru IV.Inducted under regional anesthesia at around 3:45 pm with nurse E.Caballero as surgical nurse and N.Orobia as instrument nurse.On opening up,hemoperitoneum(blood in the peritoneal cavity)more than a liter was suctioned.Operative findigs was ruptured ampulla of the Left fallopian tube.Operation ended at around 4:50 pm.Patient tolerated the procedure well..

The email from the anesthesiolgist seems professionally written and would probably serve as a confirmation to any reasonable person. You got it from the email address that you inedpendently verified. It also verified all the pertinent information, even tho you failed to receive answers to your specific requests on irrelevant stuff (“What is your relationship to Francis M. Jalbuena?”).

I am going to end this now, the rest of your story just continues in the same vein. Your continued paranoia and refusal to believe any ‘proofs’ given to you. You appear to have talked yourself into a delusion of parnoia that you might never be able to escape from. I feel very sorry for the Filipina that was so ill-used, I feel sorry for your wife, and I really think that you should seek some professional help.

One final question tho; are you still married? has been subjected to this scam, so the chances that you were scammed seems very unlikely.

Posted by Mell on The World of Filipinas:

Mark, U should be a detective investigating “dead file” cases. I think U write the most logically and the most frame-by-frame of anyone I have ever read.

Also, Mark, I find your evidence/counter evidence to be overwhelming. I think this guy Tim has acted like a cheating paranoid loser (hmmmm), with huge emotional issues, and my heart goes out to this poor girl Mayen, for what he has put her through. I only hope she recovers enough to find someone else who is muchmuchmuch more deserving of her love.

Also, I find his transformation of thinking upon reading your analysis to be, at the least, kinda amazing!!!

And, no, I am also not part of any conspiracy — LOL.

Posted by AndrwMrk on The World of Filipinas:

Some people have this great ability to destroy the lives of everyone they claim to love when they self destruct.

The way I see it is the “Big White King” had two options. 1. Pay for the surgery and man up to the consequences of his choices, and have a small RISK of being scammed (in which case he’ll loose out on a small amount of money by UK standards). or 2. Keep the small amount of money, accuse the girl and everyone near her of all sorts of scams, destroy her reputation, attempt to destroy the the reputation of the real estate office, just to name a few.

Yup, I guess you chose option 2. Good going, through your actions you’ve potentially saved yourself a few hundred pounds? But at what cost?

Posted by chris08 on The World of Filipinas:

This guy has serious problems… borderline schizo, if not full blown. He had in his mind from the beginning he was going to get scammed. I agree that why would such a lot of people be in on a scam for only $2000. It’s obvious from Mayan’s chat logs that she was really in love with him. I feel sorry for her.

I could go ON and ON about Tim. hahahaahahaha… He really screwed himself out of ever stepping foot in the Phil.’s again, ratherless having the blessed opportunity to fall in love and marry a filipina, the most beautiful (in every way possible) women God created.

Posted by MrkGrismer on The World of Filipinas:

Apparently Mr. Cumper is still starved for attention. He has revised one of his pages. While I am loathe to give him more of the attention he seems to desperatly crave, he is now making personal attacks against me and my wife, and bugging random people whose only ‘crime’ is having a link to their journal on my wife’s journal. So, I will reply here to some of the things he says:

http://hospitalscams.blogspot.com/2007/10/…journey-33.html

I was angry – seething with the lies this response contained – but my hands are now tied and I have had to relinquish my role as bait.
The site called Filam Forum Report that I was lured into (after I decided to get myself banned from The World of Filipinas – worth a read though – this is where I encountered a complete closing of ranks, an unbelievable wall of outright hostility, a nepotistic network of corrupt, soft brained cronies – led by SouthernDon and the likes of multi-chinned ogre, MrkGrismer – chided on, no doubt by his “beautiful” Filipina wife) set up by SouthernDon (Don Pinger – The Queen of Hearts) in an effort to continue their censored and biased attack – is now (in July) gathering dust – proving that it was set up specifically for that purpose.

Multi-chinned ogre? Ouch, that hurts so much. For your information, Mr. Cumper, my wife doesn’t give a Rat’s Piss about you, nor do I. I replied here, on this thread, in response to a post here asking for opinions about your ’scam’ story. I read it, and gave my opinion on it. You don’t like that opinion, but apparently feel that my response was coherent and insightful enough to represent a threat to your delusions. As with any voice of dissent against your ’story’ you seek to squeltch it and try to character assassinate the messenger. I had all but ignored you since my last reply here, despite you stalking me on the internet by posting pointless comments on my youTube account. However, now that you have resorted to copyright infringement you can expect that a record is now being kept in preparation for future legal action.

Let me address some of your assertations one by one once again:

http://hospitalscams.blogspot.com/2008/10/…-pre-amble.html

You have probably arrived here from one of a number of posts and blogs scattered about the Internet – some which belong to me – under the names Ellumbra, Philcorrupt, Nemesis, Capuccini.

No less then 4 aliases that you are willing to reveal currently. I am sure there are many more. One of many signs that you are a scammer.

If you examine their claims – you will find them totally hollow – devoid of facts – and exclusively employing the psychological tactics of confidence tricksters – simply trying to evoke in me guilt, shame & doubt.

Exactly the same as your own claims, Mr. Cumper. All hollow and devoid of facts.

How can anyone in Philadelphia USA, for instance, know what did or did not happen in Paranaque during August 2007? Let alone people in Dubai, Canada, Germany, Australia or Norwich (UK.)

People are going by what you have posted. Something you invited people to do. All these people have read your own account and arrived at the conculsion that it is #1 B.S. A work of fiction. Of course, you have now determined that all of these people that do not agree with you are ‘in cahoots’ and all members of some sort of international conspiracy. But how can you, an alleged resident of London know what is going on in Philadelphia, USA, Dubai, Canada, Germany, Australia or Norwich (UK)? Isn’t it much more likely that all of these people from different corners of the world can recognize dog doddie when they see (read) it?

Yes – a certain female Doctor (gaining fame rapidly from various TV & radio coverage of her own story) was one of the first to put up a website with the single aim of stirring up a response – with propaganda against myself & my story, only because she had been encouraged to do this – I very much doubt if it was her own idea.
How likely can it possibly be that she has the slightest grasp of what happened, living here in the UK?

Wow, this is a brand new claim, yet apparently she was ‘the first’. I thought those over at Filipina Images were the first? Perhaps you are having difficulty keeping track of you own lies here? And again you state she could have no grasp of what happened, simply because she lives in the UK. Well, from what I understand so do you — so I guess that would follow that you have no grasp of what happened. That much has been obvious to those that have read your story for over a year now. By your own statements you were not in Paranaque during August 2007. So you obviously can also not know what happened there at that time. The only people that could know, by your logic, are those that were there in that place at that time. But you choose not to believe those people. So here you are, accussing others of the crime that you are committing.

I have written to her – with the anticipated response – silence.
I have recently left highly civilised comments on some of her numerous websites – of course they are deleted.
Highly selective censorship – which indicates a fear of the painful truth.

Yet you keep all of your blogs closed to comments, and link to a private ‘group’ for you supposed ‘real proof’ pictures. You delete any comments that are made on any of your blogs that you accidently allowed comments on and you resort to juvenile insults and now copyright infringement to make juvenile doctored photos of other people. For shame. As you say “Highly selective censorship – which indicates a fear of the painful truth.”

They will also insist, of course, that I have “no evidence” to prove my story – but it goes without saying that this scattered group have absolutely zero in the way of material evidence to support their own version of events – it is pure venom.

The mistake you make here is in thinking that anyone needs ‘evidence’ to disprove your accusation. You are the one making an accusation of a crime, the burden of proof falls upon you. Yet you have no ‘evidence’, all you have is your work of fiction. Again as you say “it is pure venom”.

I leave it to you, the reader, to come to your own conclusions.

Perhaps you should add: “But please note that if you decide to come to your own conclusions, and they are in any way different then mine. Then I will do all in my power to attack you in every juvenile way possible.”

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He has no life, apparently he also had nothing better to do over New Years other then stalk people’s blogs/journals/photosites. Apparently he spends much of his time reading and re-reading this thread.

His follow-up shows how he is still in fairy-tale land:

http://tierramariaestatesscam.blogspot.com…ill-hiding.html

“Apparently Mr. Cumper is still starved for attention. He has revised one of his pages. While I am loathe to give him more of the attention he seems to desperatly crave, he is now making personal attacks against me and my wife, and bugging random people whose only ‘crime’ is having a link to their journal on my wife’s journal. [OK - just so your exaggerations don't get believed, please explain in detail exactly what you are referring to - remember the Internet is an open place - I am free to go wherever I please - only you can see a connection here, and you got yourself involved - so tough sh!t McGoo - you've only yourself to blame.]

Nice try, but I am not going to further link to your comments on the journals of my wife’s friends. Besides we already recommended that they just delete your juvenile comments and ban your IP. But just to refute your ‘only you can see a connection here” how about “I’m sure that you and Cleo had a lot to talk about, eh? Rumours, hatred mongering?” which is followed with more of the typical Cumper bigotry: “your rather flippant comment is typical of those who are rather contemptuous of foreigners in the Philippines”.

The mistake you make here is in thinking that anyone needs ‘evidence’ to disprove your accusation. [The only evidence you provide is "wishful thinking."] You are the one making an accusation of a crime, the burden of proof falls upon you. [No - I disagree - the burden of proof falls upon those making the original claim - to prove that a pregnancy or an operation actually happened - which they patently failed to do - come on - McGoo - answer that - where is the proof that these did actually happen?] Yet you have no ‘evidence’, all you have is your work of fiction. [It is far from fiction – it is perceptive – it reads between the lines – it carefully prizes apart the truth from the veneer of reality that was applied by the scammers, intent on making it all believable. Why on earth would anyone bother to do all that? I’m not a novelist.

According to your writings they provided ample proof. Yet you fail to supply any proof at all that they, or anybody else that you have added to your ‘conspiracy theories’ tried at all to ’scam you’. Even when you attempted a ‘trap’ with a fake western union those that you alledge were trying to scam you failed to ‘take the bait.’ You seem to think it is because they were very sly, but according to you when they failed to pick up on the clues you had to come right out and ask Mayen what happened to the money you sent (that you never sent). Only then did she make an attempt to check into the WU transfer, and she was honest with you that WU said no such transfer happened. As for your comment “I’m not a novelist” it is good that you see that, because your writing is terrible. Of course, the only thing the readers have to go on is your own account, and now Mayen’s story as related in her interview. You account reads like the ramblings of a paranoid, and they continue to do so. While I will admit to giving this drama only passing attention I note that you don’t seem to have a single person that seems to believe your story, or at least not a single person that seems to support your version of events. On the other hand, many people have looked at the ‘proofs’ that you said they sent you, and found them far more convincing then your ramblings. I do include myself in this category.

Let’s face it – there is nothing I could possibly say that would avert his hostility, that would change his attitude – he came out with all guns blazing, and his mind firmly made up – the most I can expect is silence – a retraction – never.

Anyone can go back and read this thread. I gave you the benefit of the doubt on this, and I refrained from commenting until I had read all of your ramblings. Why would you want a retraction? Just because I don’t agree that what you wrote is evidence of an organized scam against you?

The sort of justice that I am expected to comply with, according to these people, amounts to solving murders by resorting to no more than asking for a statement from the suspect.
In other words – if the suspect claims innocence – they must be believed.

Unless you have satisfactory evidence to the contrary, yes. People are generally considered innocent until they are proven guilty. At least in most societies that believe in justice.

None of these people have any notion of what happened – they were neither on the delivery end of the scam or the receiving end when it occurred – they simply jumped on board when the publicity started to take effect, many months later.

But we have all been on the receiving end of your scam, Mr. Cumper. Your scam to rob people of time. Your scam to try to generate traffic to your various blogs (for what purpose beyond self-gratification is beyond me). Your scam to assisinate the name of some real estate company in the Philippines. Again for unknown reasons (maybe they compete with one of your own concerns, or maybe you are unhappy that your attempted business dealings with them failed). I am not sure if you intended it to or not, but your little internet drama actually takes away from information on legitimate scam information. People looking for information on the real scams that are taking place everyday have to wade through all of these sites that contain your garbage, or the sites refuting your garbage.

evident by their total dismissal of the video evidence of the scar being smudged

Nobody has seen this so-called video evidence. Where is it?

Ever since Cumper posted his complete story he has provided no further details on anything other then his battle with people that have disagreed with his opinion that he was set up for a scam.

But I think I will refrain further from this, since Cumper’s stated purpose is now:

the “bugging-the-!!!!-out-of-these-people” campaign is having the desired effect.

It is obvious that all he is after is more attention, he wants people to talk about him so that his Blogs get just a little more traffic, he even has traffic reports posted on some of his blogs. He is ever so happy that when he posts his crap at somebody’s site his sites get just a little more traffic as people check to see what type of crap he has put down now. And to possibly defend their copyrights.

Posted by Fritz on The World of Filipinas:

A “Help Mayen” campaign is not out of the question. Tim himself makes the statement that he had a “breakdown” that included what he recognized as paranoid thoughts. Here is a blogger who is taking action due to Tim’s posts. The preponderance of the evidence points to Tim as the only one trying to “Scam” though he apparently is seeking nothing more than publicity. The response from the British Embassy is telling also…No help with a libel suit since no reasonable person (in the opinion of the Embassy officer) would believe Tim’s publications.

Assuming the basic facts that Tim uncovered and published are reasonably correct, then he did in fact get Mayen pregnant and she was hospitalized for ectopic pregnancy. Real estate sales records should show whether the family sold land at a time consistent with needing to pay the bill. Given the headaches Tim caused a very helpful employer I’d be wary of info from that source … I’d assume they have reason to cause Tim problems if given a chance smile.gif

Here’s another nice response to this: “18 signs the Philippine Hospital Hoax could be real!” There’s also a “written apology” in the links there tongue.gif

Now that his “Philippine Scam” has started breaking down, I wonder if we’ll soon be seeing an Indonesia Scam or Malaysia Scam starring Tim as the gullible rich foreigner smile.gif

Clinical paranoia and Paranoid schizophrenia are both serious mental illnesses. Hopefully Tim will get treatment before he causes even more damage.

Yep walking blind into a relationship with a gal in a foreign culture can make life very expens.. errr interesting.

Honey ko is mahal mahal mahal ko wub.gif
Fritz

Posted by ohwell on The World of Filipinas:

well either way if it was a scam then he got what he deserved for starting a relationship while he was married if it not a scam which is more than likely then he lost someone who loved him and made a total fool of himself but while people still talking about it keeps it alive and gives him ammo to write his lies probably better to ignore him and let it die the death it and he deserves (a lonely one )

Posted by sterlingsilver on The World of Filipinas:

Tim Cumper is a sick man. He was still married when he went to visit his first victim, the one he accused of being dishonest. I believe her to be completely innocent and I think what he did to her is unpardonable. I don’t believe in nonsense like karma but I hope he gets his comeuppance one day.

I can’t believe he is still around causing misery to innocent girls from the Philippines.

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the video on this page mentions Southerndon.

http://www.bibiduck.com/2009/01/21/i-was-s…med-tim-cumper/

Sounds like this guy has been exposed as a freak by just about everyone by now. Don was just one of the first.

Posted by Allyouneed
Assistant Admin
INTERNET-LOVE-SCAMS.ORG

Dear Cantok,

Thank you for abusing the goodwill from our staff. We have spend nearly a month helping you providing information to help you any way we could back in August. Now it seems you left things out then and lied to us then.

You wasted valuable time. Not only my time but also from the rest of the staff who worked hard to give you some information. The way you told us the story sounded like a scam. Time we could have spend better on the REAL victims on this board.

My Dear Cantok, Ellumbra, Tim Cumper or whatever your name is, don’t take us for fool. You knew very well you contacted this site before, and you thought you could get away with it, thought we wouldn’t remember after 8 months. WRONG we did remember.

It is not you who has been scammed, it is you who does not want to accept the consequences of your deeds. You met her on the internet, went to the Philipines and thought you could have a nice holiday there with some female delight. Unfortunately you did not think about the consequences. Be a man and face them and don’t think up excuses to get out of it.

I think every woman in the future has to be carefull with you, you are WORSE THAN THE AVERAGE INTERNET SCAMMER

Thank you for wasting our time and goodwill.

Sorry about that, forgot to change my keyboard settings. I said that this guy is not worth your attention and you should all let him die miserably.

dude, i think the smudge he was referring to was the shadow of the girls panties on the leftmost part. i’ve been looping the video more than 10 times already and i dont see any smudges and you are right about the webcam quality. Pixelation can sometimes cause weird marks on the image.

Looks like a real scar to me.

Posted by gamerguy on bibiduck.com:

hi bibiduck, been a fan of your fanboy fightfest series.

I just finished reading his story. Took me 6 days to read all of them. Maybe he is taking marijuana? He’s paranoia is superfluous. Imagine, having sex with a Filipina then blaming his mistakes to the real estate company and the hospital?! then eventually blaming all the bloggers who disagreed with him. that is stupid guys. it’s like sex-n-run.

before you accuse me of something timmyboi, I’m a caucasian guy in his late 30s who happened to read gameops from the The Tanooki (thethenooki.com) website. I eventually found my way to bibiduck’s blog.

i feel sorry for the girl tim. you should to. and stop your paranoia man. these folks are not a minority, they clearly read everything you wrote and obviously they know their culture very well than you do.

Posted by Otaku Ninja on bibiduck.com:

Heyo bibiduck-tan! Greetz from Japan. Can I join the neta?

Tim Cumper is a bakana. I’ve wasted my time reading his crap. What does the real estate guy and company and hospital have to do with his et-chi in the Philippines with a kawaii Mayen-chan? And now the bloggers who expressed their opinions are also scammers? Is he on drugs or wut?

Since I cannot comment on Tim’s blogs, I’ll just post it here. Tim, go do an eroge or do a yaoi or have some Nounai Kanojo. You seriously need help.

Terawarosu.

Posted by Briscolone on bibiduck.com:

What a sad, useless moron. Spamming the whole www with his science-fiction, while he should hide in a mental institution til the end of time!
Shame on you, ellumbra!

43 yr old aussie here, am engaged to a beautiful leyte filipina myself.

We have a saying here in the west ” Theres no FOOL like an OLD FOOL “

Tim you are a disgrace, please get some professional help soon.

Posted by Briscolone on jepoy.bengero.com:

ellumbra, you keep spamming the whole web with your sad story and you keep writing in the “who is not with me is against me” style but, frankly speaking, you haven’t posted one single little bit of evidence.
You should be aware that there are many readers thinking that you are the bad guy who went to the Philippines impregnating a young girl while you were still legally married in your country and then you went back home and said “go to hell, they are trying to scam me”.
You should visit a shrink.
Briscolone.

i have read a lot about this hospital scam situation and the subsequent postings, arguments’, insinuations etc…….

Yes it is true, that at times i have sensed an underlining feeling of contempt by some filipinas towards white guys. I have also heard the term..’fat white monkeys’ a few times.
I have experienced many on the internet asking for money, offering everything from undying love to nakedness and prostitution. I have had the usual pleas for help with school fees, hospital bills, rent arrears etc. (Actually, i don’t see any difference between this and people in my own country knocking on my door every week trying to sell me new windows i don’t need or insurance i am never likely to be able to claim against.)

But i have also witnessed so much racism, disrespect and down right rudeness towards the philippines, the people, the place and the culture…..by white guys who have no first hand knowledge of the place or the problems it faces…..

Thinking about it……if i experienced the same attitudes towards myself, my country or my culture….i believe i would have much more than contempt. I can imagine i would have complete hatred in my heart for the perpetrators and their like.

Just to put it in perspective, recently in a national newspaper here there were various articles highlighting the problem of english people been ’scammed’ for money on the internet..it seems the amounts of money each year runs into millions. Many stories were highlighted and a lot of countries listed to be ”wary of”. The philippines were not mentioned anywhere in the articles.

The attitude of the authorities investigating internet scams is that, girls from the phils, online asking for assistance, is not a scam, but rather just people in an unfortunate financial position asking assistance and trying to get through life with any help they can get.

To return to the original story….the guy in question comes across as a bit of a jerk.
For a start, if he is still married, what is he doing joining an asian dating site.
Why does he want to get together with a filipina girl not knowing anything about the history, culture, family structure, or having ever been to the Islands before.
Having been invited to the family house, why is he surprised that he is expected to pay for the food at the family party.

I myself, have been fortunate enough to have been invited into a family house (a few times now)
to join the family for dinner…..i would have been incredibly embarrassed if i had not been allowed to pay for the food (although i was never made to feel that is was expected) as i felt it a great honour that people from a completely different culture were willing to invite me into their home having only met me briefly. I have since come to learn that this is quite common in the philippines and possibly unique anywhere in the world.

It seems to me that if the guy didn’t believe the story, all he had to do was fly there and see for himself….to claim he was ‘afraid’ in case they met him at the airport…what a wimp!!!

Why does he need anyone to meet him anyway?? its not difficult to get a taxi and book into a hotel by yourself.
As for not feeling safe….i have walked down the streets of manila alone many times ….at all different times of day and night…i have never felt unsafe or threatened..the worse that happens is you are hounded by beggars and street traders..of course there is danger just as there is in any major city……i personally have felt safer there than i would walking down the streets of london or manchester.

Or if he felt unable to do that, why didn’t he take some one with him if the girl meant so much to him.

In his blogs he makes sense with some of his accusations…but just like most conspiracy theorists..its easy to make things ‘fit’ if u look hard enough.

He claims that while he was there he was taken to see a housing development by the girls employer..presumably on the pretext that he might be interested in buying one…if it really was an organised gang looking to extort or scam money from him then they would have done what they do in many resorts in europe when selling time share appartments …that is to keep him there all day and night if necessary, with no food or water, until he signs to buy one…incedently and quite ironically, the ‘gangsters’ who run these appartments ’scams’ in the resorts of europe, are mostly english!!

A final thought…………A guy travels to the philippines, meets a beautiful and sexy filipina girl who looks after him, accompanies him wherever he goes, makes sure he is safe and shows him many of the delights of the philippines….stays with him as his companion and lover, the guy pays for everything and returns home after the best time of his life with many great memories and a big smile on his face.this is seen as extortion apparently.

Alternatively….the guy travels to the philippines with his wife/ girlfriend….shes doesn’t look after him because shes tired and its too hot, she doesn’t like the food and she misses home already…they don’t see any of the delights of the philippines because neither knows where to go and are too afraid to walk down the street or try the food..she’s his companion but not lover coz they have been together so long now he can’t get it hard for her and she would rather read a magazine anyway….the guy pays for everything and returns home tired, disappointed and has a wife who is sulking because shes tired of him……this is seen as acceptable some how.

Just a thought!!!!

I have been to the phils a few times now and intend to go there many times in the future….everytime i leave i think to myself what a brilliant time i have had and imagine how it could possibly get better…but it always does…..of course there are problems, its heartbreaking to see the poverty in manila, the street vendors are a pain in the ass..but generally everyone goes to great lengths to be friendly, helpful.its the only foriegn country i have been to and not felt like a foriegner..Just like a filipina i would proudly defend it against any one critisizing it without even the basic knowledge of the place..

I went to the site and read pretty much the whole, ugly thing. Whew! And you know what? It probably was a scam… I think so only because of the IP address issue. But that guy was a scammer himself. He talked a lot about being able to trust people, but he documented his own extensive lies, beginning with those to his wife, and later to the girl. Here is a married man, ready to sell the house out from under his wife, having a fling with a girl in the Philippines, promising to marry her, sneaking and lying all the time. Then he is afraid people are lying to him, that he is being taken advantage of. What goes around, comes around. He went through an emotional hell, but it was of his own making.

Just think about how it all would have played out if he had not slept with that girl (however tempting). She could never have claimed to be pregnant with his baby, or all the other stuff that followed. She (and her family) would have owed HIM (for all the trips and food etc.), instead of the other way around. The scammers would have been grinding their teeth!

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Hi Tim, I wondered if you would comment here. I very much doubt that Mia has anything to do with your situation, and that seems like a rather paranoid innuendo.

I read your stuff, and I was not impressed with you, your character, or your common sense. I am surprised that a vicar would encourage you to commit adultery. And I question your definition of ‘genuine love.’ But Ten Commandments aside, you got yourself into that mess by making a whole string of foolish choices. While recording all the details of your conflicted emotions and the cheesy details of this affair, you also show your double-mindedness and willingness to tell elaborate lies yourself. I felt, while reading all this, that there is some need you have for the world to hear your sad tale and read your poetry. All that was not needed for just a warning.

The only thing that makes me think this was a scam was the consistent IP address, even when the girl said she was traveling. All the rest, even the blurry scar, could be real (but might not be). I find it hard to believe that the hospital and its staff would be involved in a deal like this, and do not find it hard to believe that the hospital would not email you the info you wanted. I’ve lived here a long time. Very few people email anything.

That said, yes, there are some scammers out there, and they prey on people who are naive (as Bob has said), and some good-hearted people are taken advantage of. But even more vulnerable, and for bigger scams, are people who get themselves into a compromising position, as you have done. So let’s warn men, not so much against certain scammers, but against making the same foolish mistakes you have made. You are an excellent bad example for others to learn from.

What about the foreign men who come over here, promise marriage and a new life, sleep around with the girls, get a girl pregnant or give her a disease and then disappear? Do you think that ever happens? What is their recourse? Who is warning girls about men like that? Who speaks up for them? When you compare the broken-hearted foreigners who lose some money, to the broken hearted girls who lose a lot more than money, it is the girls who get the worst deal by far.

Posted by Bob on LiveInThePhilippines.com:

The guy who wrote that site contacted me a few weeks ago looking for me to promote it for him. My response to him was that he had been naive, and that I chose not to promote the site for him. As AmericanLola said, this guy got a lot of the same things he was dishing out.

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Hi Tim – Honestly, because I have a fairly high profile on the net, I deal with thousands of e-mails every week. I may not recall the exact words that I told you without going and looking them up. I most likely was trying to be polite in my response to you. I will say, though, that I do find your actions to be naive. I also abhor what she and her cohorts did. In the end, though, I’m sorry to say, that you fell for some pretty obvious scamming. I am sorry this happened to you, but most of it would have been pretty easy to avoid, if you use the right part of your body to do the reasoning.

All I can say is good luck to you, and I hope you have a good life.

Posted by Dex U on LiveInThePhilippines.com:

Wow, this Tim guy is everywhere!!! He even has a post in Filipinaimages dot com and accuses noemi (one of the authors of the site) as one and the same person as the marketing manager (boss of the girl who supposedly scammed her). Talk about paranoia!!! I would not be surprised if he says I’m involved too! LOL!

He has dragged a lot of innocent people I think into this so called grand scam… Like all of those respected people and organisation would drag themselves into scamming him for a mere hundred thousand pesos.

And no wonder why nobody takes his blogs (a lot of it) seriously. He is starting to appear as a nutcase! Perhaps he is hoping somebody will pay him big bucks for his story???

For Tim, I’m sorry for saying you are “starting to appear as a nutcase”. I just thought you were being paranoid as you seem to think that everyone is involved in that scam. Here’s hoping for your heart’s wound to heal and for you to move on and finally find true love.

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Posted by Roy Jones on the The Zeitgeist Movement:

Can someone stop Ellumbra’s SPAMMING?

This guy is interrupting peoples threads going on about “the kingdom of heaven is at hand” and he keeps posting this over and over. He also likes to change the topics of other threads, and if you ask him to stay on topic he starts with the personal attacks.

The last page of this thread http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=1905&func=view&catid=8&id=124158&limit=10&limitstart=10#124344

If you don’t want to warn him or anything please at least ask him to stop spamming the threads that I make. If nothing is done then I will proceed to throw insults back at him. So do something about this please.

he is also spamming another thread with “the kingdom is at hand” repeating this over and over. http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=1905&func=view&catid=8&id=124048&limit=10&limitstart=10

Posted by Darezarecta in Effecta on the The Zeitgeist Movement:

Has anyone ever warned Ellumbra? I’ve been on this forum since day one and although it has taken me time to learn the forum etiquette, I don’t understand something. Why are some members continuously warned of being rude when for the most part they contribute greatly to the forum? Then, this person comes along recently and contributes absolutely nothing worth mentioning to any thread he replies to. He doesn’t really even start his own threads, he just squats in them, saying the same thing over and over again. He is taking up space in such a way that it seems he has the intention to wrongfully discredit certain members.

Certain people, myself included, are seriously getting fed-up with his incessant need to take over threads. It is hard to simply ignore him because it seems like once he starts in, other people won’t even post responses in the thread anymore.

Ellumbra:

1. Deliberately sways topics
2. Is often extremely sarcastic
3. Likes to humiliate
4. Refuses to provide proof for his assertions
5. Talks only in circles with no substantial input whatsoever!

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October 5th, 2009

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Great work! This was good that you’ve accumulated and posted them here for everyone to read.

In fact, this was the first time I read that there were non-Filipinos who were totally disgusted with Tim Cumper.

September 20th, 2009

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September 18th, 2009

jepoy

I sent you a private email, Jepoy, because at this point i am afraid that the umbra from hell could send a SAS regiment to throw grenades at me and i think that by now he knows my name, surname, address, username and password, root password and i cannot fight with such a H4×0R; i think you understand…
I doubt that he knows me but, well, i doubt that he knows anything or anybody.
By the way, where is he talking about me?

September 17th, 2009

Briscolone

@briscolone – it seems Jim is real after all, search Jim Pullen on Facebook. He ’s the one holding a guitar. He belittled my Star Trek hobby and seems to have a brain wave very much identical to Tim Cumper…

BTW, ellumbra seems to know you well, even telling everyone that you’re from Italy. Care to share your personal story about Cumper?

Just click here to contact us.

September 17th, 2009

jepoy

Hell-umbra, why don’t you ask your friend Jim to explain you some stuff about the Creative Commons License? Once you publish something that way there’s no going back, your friend should be able to confirm this even though i am pretty sure that Jim is just another product of your sick mind.

September 16th, 2009

Briscolone

He treats the archive of his website as internet piracy… LOL! Then he should sue Google for archiving all his nonsense online.

September 14th, 2009

jepoy

It’s funny to read that the “victim of the biggest scam ever” is being accused of spamming forums which are totally unrelated to this website and its topic.
I started thinking that this [horrible insult censored] of a brit really thinks he owns the internet and has the right to take over whatever discussion he likes.
If you read this, ellumbra, be aware that whatever you write in your childish videos you don’t own the truth and the truth is clear to those who can see: you just really, completely and desperately suck!

September 13th, 2009

Briscolone