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		<title>Comment on DragonLadies.org Bans Blogger Harassed by Tim Cumper for Defending Self by ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/dragonladies-org-bans-blogger-harassed-by-tim-cumper-for-defending-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1275</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bill - It is a complete and lengthy waste of time trying to communicate through a barrier of defensiveness, that is stronger than the Enterprise force field.

Essentially - this is not even remotely connected to communication - as far as these people are concerned - all they are interested in is Propaganda Supremacy - through hype, spin, exaggeration, incitement, false accusation and distortion.
The end justifies their means - no matter what those means are.

Consequently, we are not dealing with real people here, with real concerns, discussing a genuine interest on their behalf - we are merely contributing to layer upon layer of deceptive distraction - which IS entirely their aim.
Nothing else - forget truth - forget honesty - forget civility.

They can pretend all those things - that is simple -  just by writing words - usurping the authority associated with normal, moral people.
That&#039;s why their anonymity is so important.
Everything is fake here  - all the result of incitement and distortion - and that is deliberate, mechanical and artificial.

That is the aim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bill &#8211; It is a complete and lengthy waste of time trying to communicate through a barrier of defensiveness, that is stronger than the Enterprise force field.</p>
<p>Essentially &#8211; this is not even remotely connected to communication &#8211; as far as these people are concerned &#8211; all they are interested in is Propaganda Supremacy &#8211; through hype, spin, exaggeration, incitement, false accusation and distortion.<br />
The end justifies their means &#8211; no matter what those means are.</p>
<p>Consequently, we are not dealing with real people here, with real concerns, discussing a genuine interest on their behalf &#8211; we are merely contributing to layer upon layer of deceptive distraction &#8211; which IS entirely their aim.<br />
Nothing else &#8211; forget truth &#8211; forget honesty &#8211; forget civility.</p>
<p>They can pretend all those things &#8211; that is simple &#8211;  just by writing words &#8211; usurping the authority associated with normal, moral people.<br />
That&#8217;s why their anonymity is so important.<br />
Everything is fake here  &#8211; all the result of incitement and distortion &#8211; and that is deliberate, mechanical and artificial.</p>
<p>That is the aim.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Cumper Defies Creative Commons License and Cease &amp; Desist Warnings by ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/tim-cumper-defies-creative-commons-license-and-cease-desist-warnings/comment-page-1/#comment-1274</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jepoy - communication is the term I apply to a meaningful, honest and open two-way exchange - with a common interest being seriously discussed.

You only bothered stringing more than a few sentences together in your replies when the topic aroused you by being directly connected to what was a mere side issue - namely licences, google, caches, archives etc.
Trying to discuss anything outside that limited area was not possible because of your deliberate reticence and refusal of respect.

Hence I could not communicate with you - because your replies revealed no interest and were only useful in what they did not say.

Noemi has never replied to my emails.

Communication was being stifled, deliberately avoided.
That is the whole point of communication - which is why I apply the word - it is not simply dependent on a technical availability.

However - as any readers will see from the many screen captures of the various welcome screens employed by the campaign bloggers - my right to reply was also being inhibited by banning and blocking of my IP address from visiting or contributing to those sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jepoy &#8211; communication is the term I apply to a meaningful, honest and open two-way exchange &#8211; with a common interest being seriously discussed.</p>
<p>You only bothered stringing more than a few sentences together in your replies when the topic aroused you by being directly connected to what was a mere side issue &#8211; namely licences, google, caches, archives etc.<br />
Trying to discuss anything outside that limited area was not possible because of your deliberate reticence and refusal of respect.</p>
<p>Hence I could not communicate with you &#8211; because your replies revealed no interest and were only useful in what they did not say.</p>
<p>Noemi has never replied to my emails.</p>
<p>Communication was being stifled, deliberately avoided.<br />
That is the whole point of communication &#8211; which is why I apply the word &#8211; it is not simply dependent on a technical availability.</p>
<p>However &#8211; as any readers will see from the many screen captures of the various welcome screens employed by the campaign bloggers &#8211; my right to reply was also being inhibited by banning and blocking of my IP address from visiting or contributing to those sites.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Cumper Defies Creative Commons License and Cease &amp; Desist Warnings by ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/tim-cumper-defies-creative-commons-license-and-cease-desist-warnings/comment-page-1/#comment-1273</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There appears to be a comment missing from here - a bit of selective censorship going on?
Where has Steven&#039;s comment gone?

BTW Jepoy - &quot;I presume they can read this now&quot; - is in reference to the &quot;installed code&quot; - the subject of that particular sentence.
No association to your pet claim of &quot;paranoia&quot; whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There appears to be a comment missing from here &#8211; a bit of selective censorship going on?<br />
Where has Steven&#8217;s comment gone?</p>
<p>BTW Jepoy &#8211; &#8220;I presume they can read this now&#8221; &#8211; is in reference to the &#8220;installed code&#8221; &#8211; the subject of that particular sentence.<br />
No association to your pet claim of &#8220;paranoia&#8221; whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Cumper Defies Creative Commons License and Cease &amp; Desist Warnings by jepoy</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/tim-cumper-defies-creative-commons-license-and-cease-desist-warnings/comment-page-1/#comment-1272</link>
		<dc:creator>jepoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then why are you here? You contradict yourself. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then why are you here? You contradict yourself. <img src='http://www.timcumper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Cumper Defies Creative Commons License and Cease &amp; Desist Warnings by Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/tim-cumper-defies-creative-commons-license-and-cease-desist-warnings/comment-page-1/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides, it&#039;s not like antagonizing a paranoid schitzophrenic isn&#039;t... morally FUCKED UP or anything, is it?


You people disgust me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, it&#8217;s not like antagonizing a paranoid schitzophrenic isn&#8217;t&#8230; morally FUCKED UP or anything, is it?</p>
<p>You people disgust me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Cumper Defies Creative Commons License and Cease &amp; Desist Warnings by Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/tim-cumper-defies-creative-commons-license-and-cease-desist-warnings/comment-page-1/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the fuck would I care about some Filipino trash? I don&#039;t have to do anything at all and you&#039;re all already rotting in a pile of shit. I don&#039;t even need legal action to win, because I already have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the fuck would I care about some Filipino trash? I don&#8217;t have to do anything at all and you&#8217;re all already rotting in a pile of shit. I don&#8217;t even need legal action to win, because I already have.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Cumper Defies Creative Commons License and Cease &amp; Desist Warnings by Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring it on Bill! Bring it on!</description>
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		<title>Comment on DragonLadies.org Bans Blogger Harassed by Tim Cumper for Defending Self by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/dragonladies-org-bans-blogger-harassed-by-tim-cumper-for-defending-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bill - his side is all here:

http://www.timcumper.com/tim-cumpers-blogs/

har. har.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@bill &#8211; his side is all here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timcumper.com/tim-cumpers-blogs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.timcumper.com/tim-cumpers-blogs/</a></p>
<p>har. har.</p>
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		<title>Comment on DragonLadies.org Bans Blogger Harassed by Tim Cumper for Defending Self by Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And why do you not post the other side? Is it because maybe, just maybe, that person was actually harrassing him and you simply do not want your precious visitor&#039;s opinions being swayed?

You are all so FOS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why do you not post the other side? Is it because maybe, just maybe, that person was actually harrassing him and you simply do not want your precious visitor&#8217;s opinions being swayed?</p>
<p>You are all so FOS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Cumper Defies Creative Commons License and Cease &amp; Desist Warnings by Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/tim-cumper-defies-creative-commons-license-and-cease-desist-warnings/comment-page-1/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not under your right to reply. You have some pretty shitty legal advice. If I was your enemy, you&#039;d be fucking squashed by now with everything you&#039;ve said on this page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not under your right to reply. You have some pretty shitty legal advice. If I was your enemy, you&#8217;d be fucking squashed by now with everything you&#8217;ve said on this page.</p>
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		<title>Comment on DragonLadies.org Bans Blogger Harassed by Tim Cumper for Defending Self by ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/dragonladies-org-bans-blogger-harassed-by-tim-cumper-for-defending-self/comment-page-1/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 00:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One of the bloggers harassed by Tim Cumper&quot;

Well - now you can start to see the true picture - it is actually this &quot;one of the bloggers&quot; - Jepoy - himself - for some reason his name doesn&#039;t get mentioned  - who has been harassing and stalking Tim Cumper - not the other way round.
This is not a one-off - he has been doing this constantly.
Further than writing my story - everything I have done has been solely in response to precisely this sort of activity - harassment - stalking - bullying - incitement.
It&#039;s clinical name - the euphemism given to this activity -  is &quot;an SEO campaign.&quot;

Yeah - pull the other one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of the bloggers harassed by Tim Cumper&#8221;</p>
<p>Well &#8211; now you can start to see the true picture &#8211; it is actually this &#8220;one of the bloggers&#8221; &#8211; Jepoy &#8211; himself &#8211; for some reason his name doesn&#8217;t get mentioned  &#8211; who has been harassing and stalking Tim Cumper &#8211; not the other way round.<br />
This is not a one-off &#8211; he has been doing this constantly.<br />
Further than writing my story &#8211; everything I have done has been solely in response to precisely this sort of activity &#8211; harassment &#8211; stalking &#8211; bullying &#8211; incitement.<br />
It&#8217;s clinical name &#8211; the euphemism given to this activity &#8211;  is &#8220;an SEO campaign.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah &#8211; pull the other one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Harassing Messages from Tim Cumper by The Tim Cumper Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Timothy Ellis Cumper Calls Kris Aquino a Mindless Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Tim Cumper Watch &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Timothy Ellis Cumper Calls Kris Aquino a Mindless Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 12:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ABOUT TIM CUMPER - TESTIMONIALS ABOUT TIM CUMPER - HARASSMENT OF TIM CUMPER - NON-PINOY VIEWS ABOUT TIM [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ABOUT TIM CUMPER &#8211; TESTIMONIALS ABOUT TIM CUMPER &#8211; HARASSMENT OF TIM CUMPER &#8211; NON-PINOY VIEWS ABOUT TIM [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Timothy Ellis Cumper Calls Kris Aquino a Mindless Idiot by ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm! hello Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm! hello Nick</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tim Cumper Defies Creative Commons License and Cease &amp; Desist Warnings by ellumbra</title>
		<link>http://www.timcumper.com/archives/tim-cumper-defies-creative-commons-license-and-cease-desist-warnings/comment-page-1/#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 03:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello Steven</description>
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		<title>Comment on Mayen Betita, A Filipina Who Learned a Painful Lesson by ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 00:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting? ? ?

        zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting? ? ?</p>
<p>        zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayen Betita, A Filipina Who Learned a Painful Lesson by jepoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jepoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion here:

http://www.gameops.net/2010/04/timothy-ellis-cumper.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gameops.net/2010/04/timothy-ellis-cumper.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gameops.net/2010/04/timothy-ellis-cumper.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayen Betita, A Filipina Who Learned a Painful Lesson by ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You are probably mixing business with friendship, since you say “encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK”.
Mr. Jalbuena was probably being friendly to you without being your friend. Do you know that there’s a difference between “friendly behaviour” and “my friend”? Most of the people you met were probably just being friendly and hospitable to you, which is part of their culture.&quot;

Well - we are being rather picky - how is it expected to develop a true friendship in 10 days?
My entire time was spent focused on the relationship - the girl - my girl&quot;friend&quot; - the love of my life - my future.
I am not the type to go out drinking in bars.
Deep friendships become sparser as we get older.

&quot;Have you considered that you were just behaving like an asshole, from the point of view of the ones who were dealing with their problems in their country? And that your behaviour let them leave you alone because they felt your attitude insulting?&quot;

Of course that is a possibility.
Had their focus been spread across a broad spectrum of understanding, and not solely on the money - perhaps there would have been space in their communications to appreciate the dilemma and urgency that I was faced with.
I was on the edge of my seat 24 hours a day during that time - waiting - confused and bewildered by the ambiguity of it all.

Did that go unnoticed?
The responses I was getting seemed to indicate that it did.
The &quot;idea&quot; - and that&#039;s all it was realistically, no more than an idea - was hoisted upon me from their shores.
It was down to them to give me adequate cause to believe it - it was not down to me to invent and believe excuses for people that might have been trying something on.
How unreasonable is that expectation?
Was I supposed to trust the love - implicitly - blindly?
That is precisely the expectation in a scam situation - the benefit of the doubt will always yield to the emotional conditioning.

&quot;You keep measuring a foreign country and people with your british ruler and that’s quite retarded.&quot;

Great word - retarded.
In the absence of a thorough knowledge - what else can be used to measure?
You are using hindsight as a weapon - demonstrating your commitment with hatred.

I am quite capable of reading, absorbing and understanding your perspective.
It is already a cliché - it has already been stated countless times before.
Nevertheless - it comes under the category of &quot;excuses made on behalf of.&quot;
It is simply more speculation, but of a different flavour.

Yes - I agree - it is monstrously boring - covering the same ground time after time - and always arriving back at the same ultimate conclusion.
The struggle that has ensued is entirely about the publicity, the perception and people&#039;s energetically voiced objections to that publicity.
They will attempt to get a foothold on the truth that lies beneath the surface of the story - but fail - just as I have done.
I am interested in that truth for its own sake - not simply to be used as a crowbar of perception.
The story needs no other exposure - especially a patently distorted exposure - to garner an incited support.
That is what has happened.
Under the cloak of moral outrage - there hides a purely business oriented strategy.

That is of no value whatever in my search for the truth - because it patently cannot be trusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You are probably mixing business with friendship, since you say “encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK”.<br />
Mr. Jalbuena was probably being friendly to you without being your friend. Do you know that there’s a difference between “friendly behaviour” and “my friend”? Most of the people you met were probably just being friendly and hospitable to you, which is part of their culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well &#8211; we are being rather picky &#8211; how is it expected to develop a true friendship in 10 days?<br />
My entire time was spent focused on the relationship &#8211; the girl &#8211; my girl&#8221;friend&#8221; &#8211; the love of my life &#8211; my future.<br />
I am not the type to go out drinking in bars.<br />
Deep friendships become sparser as we get older.</p>
<p>&#8220;Have you considered that you were just behaving like an asshole, from the point of view of the ones who were dealing with their problems in their country? And that your behaviour let them leave you alone because they felt your attitude insulting?&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course that is a possibility.<br />
Had their focus been spread across a broad spectrum of understanding, and not solely on the money &#8211; perhaps there would have been space in their communications to appreciate the dilemma and urgency that I was faced with.<br />
I was on the edge of my seat 24 hours a day during that time &#8211; waiting &#8211; confused and bewildered by the ambiguity of it all.</p>
<p>Did that go unnoticed?<br />
The responses I was getting seemed to indicate that it did.<br />
The &#8220;idea&#8221; &#8211; and that&#8217;s all it was realistically, no more than an idea &#8211; was hoisted upon me from their shores.<br />
It was down to them to give me adequate cause to believe it &#8211; it was not down to me to invent and believe excuses for people that might have been trying something on.<br />
How unreasonable is that expectation?<br />
Was I supposed to trust the love &#8211; implicitly &#8211; blindly?<br />
That is precisely the expectation in a scam situation &#8211; the benefit of the doubt will always yield to the emotional conditioning.</p>
<p>&#8220;You keep measuring a foreign country and people with your british ruler and that’s quite retarded.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great word &#8211; retarded.<br />
In the absence of a thorough knowledge &#8211; what else can be used to measure?<br />
You are using hindsight as a weapon &#8211; demonstrating your commitment with hatred.</p>
<p>I am quite capable of reading, absorbing and understanding your perspective.<br />
It is already a cliché &#8211; it has already been stated countless times before.<br />
Nevertheless &#8211; it comes under the category of &#8220;excuses made on behalf of.&#8221;<br />
It is simply more speculation, but of a different flavour.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; I agree &#8211; it is monstrously boring &#8211; covering the same ground time after time &#8211; and always arriving back at the same ultimate conclusion.<br />
The struggle that has ensued is entirely about the publicity, the perception and people&#8217;s energetically voiced objections to that publicity.<br />
They will attempt to get a foothold on the truth that lies beneath the surface of the story &#8211; but fail &#8211; just as I have done.<br />
I am interested in that truth for its own sake &#8211; not simply to be used as a crowbar of perception.<br />
The story needs no other exposure &#8211; especially a patently distorted exposure &#8211; to garner an incited support.<br />
That is what has happened.<br />
Under the cloak of moral outrage &#8211; there hides a purely business oriented strategy.</p>
<p>That is of no value whatever in my search for the truth &#8211; because it patently cannot be trusted.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From what i gathered reading your blog you probably went there with an excessive thinking about money and business&quot;

You could not be more wrong. If that is a product of your understanding - then no wonder your other assessments of me are completely off target.

Absolutely, astonishingly, brilliantly - WRONG.

had you been inside my body at that time - you would have felt nothing but an adoration, a happiness that you had not experienced before - a love, that seemed far too good to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From what i gathered reading your blog you probably went there with an excessive thinking about money and business&#8221;</p>
<p>You could not be more wrong. If that is a product of your understanding &#8211; then no wonder your other assessments of me are completely off target.</p>
<p>Absolutely, astonishingly, brilliantly &#8211; WRONG.</p>
<p>had you been inside my body at that time &#8211; you would have felt nothing but an adoration, a happiness that you had not experienced before &#8211; a love, that seemed far too good to be true.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayen Betita, A Filipina Who Learned a Painful Lesson by Briscolone</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are probably mixing business with friendship, since you say &quot;encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK&quot;.
Mr. Jalbuena was probably being friendly to you without being your friend. Do you know that there&#039;s a difference between &quot;friendly behaviour&quot; and &quot;my friend&quot;? Most of the people you met were probably just being friendly and hospitable to you, which is part of their culture.

&quot;I can expect the urgency of the situation to fully comprehended by all those allegedly there to help.
I can understand the translation of my requests, by these people, as a priority – for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of countering my justified suspicions.
I cannot understand why – when none of the above happened – I was not immediately informed of the reasons, and alternatives suggested.
I was faced instead with what appeared to be a blank refusal to cooperate, combined with emotional hyperbole.&quot;
Have you considered that you were just behaving like an asshole, from the point of view of the ones who were dealing with their problems in their country? And that your behaviour let them leave you alone because they felt your attitude insulting?

You don&#039;t know much more than what everybody can read on the web about the Philippines, you lack a real knowledge of the place, probably because when you were there
-your stay was short
-you were confused by the mix of love, desire to change your life completely, fear of being scammed or be the golden goose there forever
-you had no time and/or no chance to make real friends there, somebody who cares for you and not only for the business websites.

I know enough about health care in the Philippines; i have eyewitnessed a situation where a girl about to give birth and needing a cesarean was kept out of the surgery room until her man came back with some cash and some medicines he had to buy in an external pharmacy. You keep measuring a foreign country and people with your british ruler and that&#039;s quite retarded.
Then if one day the Big Revelation comes you&#039;ll prove me to be wrong but you are the one who can&#039;t apparently detach for a second from his own biased point of view.

Anyway i have enough of playing tennis with you, i have tried to show you a few things from a different perspective but you keep talking the same bullshit.
If somebody doesn&#039;t fully believe in your version of the story, he/she &quot;hasn&#039;t tried hard enough&quot;: that equals to say that you own the irrefutable truth but when you are asked for proof you only can give suspicion and jigsaw.
So have fun, i&#039;ll go to some other place where i can exchange opinions with other readers; you are boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are probably mixing business with friendship, since you say &#8220;encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK&#8221;.<br />
Mr. Jalbuena was probably being friendly to you without being your friend. Do you know that there&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;friendly behaviour&#8221; and &#8220;my friend&#8221;? Most of the people you met were probably just being friendly and hospitable to you, which is part of their culture.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can expect the urgency of the situation to fully comprehended by all those allegedly there to help.<br />
I can understand the translation of my requests, by these people, as a priority – for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of countering my justified suspicions.<br />
I cannot understand why – when none of the above happened – I was not immediately informed of the reasons, and alternatives suggested.<br />
I was faced instead with what appeared to be a blank refusal to cooperate, combined with emotional hyperbole.&#8221;<br />
Have you considered that you were just behaving like an asshole, from the point of view of the ones who were dealing with their problems in their country? And that your behaviour let them leave you alone because they felt your attitude insulting?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know much more than what everybody can read on the web about the Philippines, you lack a real knowledge of the place, probably because when you were there<br />
-your stay was short<br />
-you were confused by the mix of love, desire to change your life completely, fear of being scammed or be the golden goose there forever<br />
-you had no time and/or no chance to make real friends there, somebody who cares for you and not only for the business websites.</p>
<p>I know enough about health care in the Philippines; i have eyewitnessed a situation where a girl about to give birth and needing a cesarean was kept out of the surgery room until her man came back with some cash and some medicines he had to buy in an external pharmacy. You keep measuring a foreign country and people with your british ruler and that&#8217;s quite retarded.<br />
Then if one day the Big Revelation comes you&#8217;ll prove me to be wrong but you are the one who can&#8217;t apparently detach for a second from his own biased point of view.</p>
<p>Anyway i have enough of playing tennis with you, i have tried to show you a few things from a different perspective but you keep talking the same bullshit.<br />
If somebody doesn&#8217;t fully believe in your version of the story, he/she &#8220;hasn&#8217;t tried hard enough&#8221;: that equals to say that you own the irrefutable truth but when you are asked for proof you only can give suspicion and jigsaw.<br />
So have fun, i&#8217;ll go to some other place where i can exchange opinions with other readers; you are boring.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayen Betita, A Filipina Who Learned a Painful Lesson by ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 19:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t have a particular commitment and i ain’t obsessed, thanx all the gods for that; my only requirement is that you publicly apologize for your stupid behaviour, spamming, accusing lots of people of being part of a crime syndicate that probably exists only in your dreams, delete the offending material you posted against people who i don’t even know.
If you do that, stop twittering like a fool, stop all this conspiracy bullshit, on my side i will publicly apologize for calling you names and, even though i have no power on what other netizens do, i’ll try to contact a few of them that are probably easy to get in touch with through their blogs asking them to do the same “content removal”. But i can’t say that they will grant my request because we don’t even know each other.&quot;

You are at such a disadvantage with your anonymity.
How you expect any degree of trust to be forthcoming, when I have absolutely no idea who you are?

You see, your words are in denial of your activity. You say you have no particular commitment - when patently you have - you have expectations as well.
Am I to trust that your motivation is altruistic and beneficent?
Because that is the most you hope for in your predicament of anonymity.

Am I to trust, amidst all the incessant and determined activity of the previous two years, that Briscolone is the exception?

Am I to believe that your revealed requirement - which coincides perfectly with the whole aim of this orchestrated campaign - has no particular connection to it?
Am I to believe that you require me to remove my writings simply to please you, when you could quite simply avoid them by not visiting, by non-involvement?

All for the &quot;carrot&quot; of an apology from you -an anonymous entity on the Internet?

Unlike most - my sole intention, my sole motivation is to discover the truth.
I am beyond caring about people&#039;s perception of me - the name-calling - the innuendo - the false accusation.
It is hollow and carries no real sting.
I will not be palmed off with platitudes - I will not be intimidated by bullies - and I will not be satisfied with half-truths and transparently feeble excuses.

Apologies will come - only when deserved.
I am always prepared to apologise.

Have you suddenly assumed the role of negotiator-in-chief?
Your requirements and the tone of most of your writing here -  is focused around people&#039;s perception - it concentrates mainly on the publicity aspect - showing where your commitment does lie.
On perception - not on discovering the truth through impartiality.
It is perception that is the threat, it is the publicity that is the impediment.
After all - that is all you know about.
The whole psychology of the campaign is to  bend perception - assisted by a severe distortion of an already documented story.

Where is the need for anybody to loudly oppose?
It is full of ambiguity - where is the danger?
It is full of speculation - where is the absolute accusation?

It could have quite simply been defused by the truth - before it was even made public.
It could have been neutralised by a cooperative understanding - by communication - intent on cutting a clear &amp; direct path to that truth.
Where is the need for recrimination, for blame - if it was all a simple misunderstanding?

My only focus was getting to that truth - because behind that truth was the true image of the girl I loved.
My love would not have stopped - simply I would bring more understanding to it.

Considering all the time that has passed, all the energy spent, all the words written, all the anger and hatred - and still that cooperation has not manifest - something decidedly strange has been going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t have a particular commitment and i ain’t obsessed, thanx all the gods for that; my only requirement is that you publicly apologize for your stupid behaviour, spamming, accusing lots of people of being part of a crime syndicate that probably exists only in your dreams, delete the offending material you posted against people who i don’t even know.<br />
If you do that, stop twittering like a fool, stop all this conspiracy bullshit, on my side i will publicly apologize for calling you names and, even though i have no power on what other netizens do, i’ll try to contact a few of them that are probably easy to get in touch with through their blogs asking them to do the same “content removal”. But i can’t say that they will grant my request because we don’t even know each other.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are at such a disadvantage with your anonymity.<br />
How you expect any degree of trust to be forthcoming, when I have absolutely no idea who you are?</p>
<p>You see, your words are in denial of your activity. You say you have no particular commitment &#8211; when patently you have &#8211; you have expectations as well.<br />
Am I to trust that your motivation is altruistic and beneficent?<br />
Because that is the most you hope for in your predicament of anonymity.</p>
<p>Am I to trust, amidst all the incessant and determined activity of the previous two years, that Briscolone is the exception?</p>
<p>Am I to believe that your revealed requirement &#8211; which coincides perfectly with the whole aim of this orchestrated campaign &#8211; has no particular connection to it?<br />
Am I to believe that you require me to remove my writings simply to please you, when you could quite simply avoid them by not visiting, by non-involvement?</p>
<p>All for the &#8220;carrot&#8221; of an apology from you -an anonymous entity on the Internet?</p>
<p>Unlike most &#8211; my sole intention, my sole motivation is to discover the truth.<br />
I am beyond caring about people&#8217;s perception of me &#8211; the name-calling &#8211; the innuendo &#8211; the false accusation.<br />
It is hollow and carries no real sting.<br />
I will not be palmed off with platitudes &#8211; I will not be intimidated by bullies &#8211; and I will not be satisfied with half-truths and transparently feeble excuses.</p>
<p>Apologies will come &#8211; only when deserved.<br />
I am always prepared to apologise.</p>
<p>Have you suddenly assumed the role of negotiator-in-chief?<br />
Your requirements and the tone of most of your writing here &#8211;  is focused around people&#8217;s perception &#8211; it concentrates mainly on the publicity aspect &#8211; showing where your commitment does lie.<br />
On perception &#8211; not on discovering the truth through impartiality.<br />
It is perception that is the threat, it is the publicity that is the impediment.<br />
After all &#8211; that is all you know about.<br />
The whole psychology of the campaign is to  bend perception &#8211; assisted by a severe distortion of an already documented story.</p>
<p>Where is the need for anybody to loudly oppose?<br />
It is full of ambiguity &#8211; where is the danger?<br />
It is full of speculation &#8211; where is the absolute accusation?</p>
<p>It could have quite simply been defused by the truth &#8211; before it was even made public.<br />
It could have been neutralised by a cooperative understanding &#8211; by communication &#8211; intent on cutting a clear &amp; direct path to that truth.<br />
Where is the need for recrimination, for blame &#8211; if it was all a simple misunderstanding?</p>
<p>My only focus was getting to that truth &#8211; because behind that truth was the true image of the girl I loved.<br />
My love would not have stopped &#8211; simply I would bring more understanding to it.</p>
<p>Considering all the time that has passed, all the energy spent, all the words written, all the anger and hatred &#8211; and still that cooperation has not manifest &#8211; something decidedly strange has been going on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayen Betita, A Filipina Who Learned a Painful Lesson by ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In your case you clearly showed from the start a different form of paranoia, because you left your country with the “i’ll be scammed” idea rocking and rolling in your mind and you adapted lots of events to fit your jigsaw of scam and corruption.&quot;

Your impenetrable insistence and constant focus on this point proves undoubtedly that it is key to your psychological approach.

You are trying to make out that I exaggerated the possibility of being scammed in my own mind.

If that were the case, I would not have taken the trip.
Scamming is a very real possibility - the reality of which you seem to be in denial of - most particularly in the country of my destination.
In fact - I had not discovered the full prevalence of it at all before I started reading about it during my search for clues.
Nevertheless - apart from being completely naive and stupid - a degree of caution is going to be lurking at the back of the mind, especially in the circumstances of meeting a virtual stranger from a dating site.

It is very easy to disguise an ulterior motive underneath the cloak of romance.
It was made easier still by the natural charm, beauty and warmth of the Filipina I met.
It was made easier still because of the completely relaxed atmosphere &amp; closeness when we were together.
None of which would have been as simple had I a shell of resistance around me - caused by the paranoia you are insisting on.
Had my paranoia been as hair-trigger as you suspect - surely those suspicions would have immediately sounded the alarm - for instance, when the girl gently dismissed my query about using contraception?

It is only in hindsight - the power of memory - the honesty with which I apply this hindsight - which has increased the causes for suspicion - all focusing on that key situation of &quot;hospitalisation.&quot;
That was the pivotal moment - when everything assumed an ambiguous perspective - and everything about the relationship required a new clarity and confirmation of intent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In your case you clearly showed from the start a different form of paranoia, because you left your country with the “i’ll be scammed” idea rocking and rolling in your mind and you adapted lots of events to fit your jigsaw of scam and corruption.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your impenetrable insistence and constant focus on this point proves undoubtedly that it is key to your psychological approach.</p>
<p>You are trying to make out that I exaggerated the possibility of being scammed in my own mind.</p>
<p>If that were the case, I would not have taken the trip.<br />
Scamming is a very real possibility &#8211; the reality of which you seem to be in denial of &#8211; most particularly in the country of my destination.<br />
In fact &#8211; I had not discovered the full prevalence of it at all before I started reading about it during my search for clues.<br />
Nevertheless &#8211; apart from being completely naive and stupid &#8211; a degree of caution is going to be lurking at the back of the mind, especially in the circumstances of meeting a virtual stranger from a dating site.</p>
<p>It is very easy to disguise an ulterior motive underneath the cloak of romance.<br />
It was made easier still by the natural charm, beauty and warmth of the Filipina I met.<br />
It was made easier still because of the completely relaxed atmosphere &amp; closeness when we were together.<br />
None of which would have been as simple had I a shell of resistance around me &#8211; caused by the paranoia you are insisting on.<br />
Had my paranoia been as hair-trigger as you suspect &#8211; surely those suspicions would have immediately sounded the alarm &#8211; for instance, when the girl gently dismissed my query about using contraception?</p>
<p>It is only in hindsight &#8211; the power of memory &#8211; the honesty with which I apply this hindsight &#8211; which has increased the causes for suspicion &#8211; all focusing on that key situation of &#8220;hospitalisation.&#8221;<br />
That was the pivotal moment &#8211; when everything assumed an ambiguous perspective &#8211; and everything about the relationship required a new clarity and confirmation of intent.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When you were back and the blogging saga started your paranoia increased to the point of including an army of people to your supposed scam attempt, creating an organized crime syndicate where there could have been just a bad luck case.&quot;

Wrong - the possibility of organisation was transparently obvious - by the variety of people originally involved.
Enough to cause this speculation - and that is all it was.
Many  might have simple been conscripted to provide covering evidence.
However, that is still an interpretation of the word &quot;organised&quot; - people willing to do favours for a perceived common cause.

The organisation of the bloggers is self-apparent and also is self-admitted.
The strong possibility of an initial link between them and the original circle still remains.

I have admitted to being naive at times as to the degree of organisation I imagined at times - but this is supported by a solidarity of method - and coincides with the aim of the original idea behind the propaganda campaign - to obliterate my story - with an artificially generated tzunami of opposition - by presenting a totally distorted version of what actually happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When you were back and the blogging saga started your paranoia increased to the point of including an army of people to your supposed scam attempt, creating an organized crime syndicate where there could have been just a bad luck case.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong &#8211; the possibility of organisation was transparently obvious &#8211; by the variety of people originally involved.<br />
Enough to cause this speculation &#8211; and that is all it was.<br />
Many  might have simple been conscripted to provide covering evidence.<br />
However, that is still an interpretation of the word &#8220;organised&#8221; &#8211; people willing to do favours for a perceived common cause.</p>
<p>The organisation of the bloggers is self-apparent and also is self-admitted.<br />
The strong possibility of an initial link between them and the original circle still remains.</p>
<p>I have admitted to being naive at times as to the degree of organisation I imagined at times &#8211; but this is supported by a solidarity of method &#8211; and coincides with the aim of the original idea behind the propaganda campaign &#8211; to obliterate my story &#8211; with an artificially generated tzunami of opposition &#8211; by presenting a totally distorted version of what actually happened.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My bias is the son of your attitude and behaviour; you get what you deserve here. Were you less arrogant and ready to cry conspiracy, were you more open to criticism and able to accept that there is and there will always be who doesn’t believe you, you wouldn’t have got into this deep puddle of webshit.&quot;

Pretending to be devil&#039;s advocate are we?
I am ready to discuss with anyone who can demonstrate impartiality.
You fell at the first fence, Briscolone - as did most of the &quot;also rans.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My bias is the son of your attitude and behaviour; you get what you deserve here. Were you less arrogant and ready to cry conspiracy, were you more open to criticism and able to accept that there is and there will always be who doesn’t believe you, you wouldn’t have got into this deep puddle of webshit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretending to be devil&#8217;s advocate are we?<br />
I am ready to discuss with anyone who can demonstrate impartiality.<br />
You fell at the first fence, Briscolone &#8211; as did most of the &#8220;also rans.&#8221;</p>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and of course you made no friends there; otherwise you’d have been assisted in all the trouble that came later&quot;

Nonsense - the people involved in this saga were the people I met, they were my &quot;friends&quot; - encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK.
Ha!
What friendship?
It wasn&#039;t strong enough to survive this was it?
It wasn&#039;t sincere enough to actually make any effort to help me was it?
Just like all the vast majority of other Filipinos who have jumped on this band-wagon of contempt - there are very few indeed who will put a foreigner before someone of their own nationality - while simultaneously denying any such bias.

Don&#039;t make me laugh even louder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and of course you made no friends there; otherwise you’d have been assisted in all the trouble that came later&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonsense &#8211; the people involved in this saga were the people I met, they were my &#8220;friends&#8221; &#8211; encouraging me to set up websites for their business in the UK.<br />
Ha!<br />
What friendship?<br />
It wasn&#8217;t strong enough to survive this was it?<br />
It wasn&#8217;t sincere enough to actually make any effort to help me was it?<br />
Just like all the vast majority of other Filipinos who have jumped on this band-wagon of contempt &#8211; there are very few indeed who will put a foreigner before someone of their own nationality &#8211; while simultaneously denying any such bias.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make me laugh even louder!</p>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1-You can’t decide how other people in another country deal with their problems, you can’t pretend that a foreign hospital’s staff jumps when you push a button when they owe absolutely nothing to you. They can be astonishingly rough to their own people so don’t be surprised if they don’t give a damn about you and your claims.&quot;

I can expect the urgency of the situation to fully comprehended by all those allegedly there to help.
I can understand the translation of my requests, by these people, as a priority - for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of countering my justified suspicions.
I cannot understand why - when none of the above happened -  I was not immediately informed of the reasons, and alternatives suggested.
I was faced instead with what appeared to be a blank refusal to cooperate, combined  with emotional hyperbole.
Given that the whole situation at the time was already being approached with a degree of caution on my behalf - for obvious reasons - this behaviour set the seal on what followed.

&quot;2-You are sure that you are right but that doesn’t imply that everybody else sees evidence in your suspicion.&quot;

I can fully understand that - but it is my right to insist that a situation is seen as thoroughly and with an equally serious disposition as I applied to it - which is too much to expect from any outsider - especially those considering themselves already as &quot;insiders&quot; - because of nationality and an aptitude for contempt.

&quot;3-If you know anything about the internet and its social aspects you are well aware that i can throw shit at you for years and i will be an annoying thug but you have been annoying a consistent number of people, earning a much worse degree in trolling and harassing. Remember that one single murder gets a smaller punishment than a mass murder or a genocide.&quot;

The simple reason is this - a consistent number of people - in a concerted effort against one solitary person - is bullying.
I will not be subdued by bullying.

&quot;4-After behaving like an arrogant paranoidiot with all the critics and the skeptics, you can’t get away with it just talking about taking sides and intimidation. I have tried to look at your story from your perspective and with the advantage of having a much better knowledge of the Philippines country and people than yours but you haven’t convinced me at all.&quot;

You believe you.
Then you haven&#039;t tried hard enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1-You can’t decide how other people in another country deal with their problems, you can’t pretend that a foreign hospital’s staff jumps when you push a button when they owe absolutely nothing to you. They can be astonishingly rough to their own people so don’t be surprised if they don’t give a damn about you and your claims.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can expect the urgency of the situation to fully comprehended by all those allegedly there to help.<br />
I can understand the translation of my requests, by these people, as a priority &#8211; for the sake of the relationship and for the sake of countering my justified suspicions.<br />
I cannot understand why &#8211; when none of the above happened &#8211;  I was not immediately informed of the reasons, and alternatives suggested.<br />
I was faced instead with what appeared to be a blank refusal to cooperate, combined  with emotional hyperbole.<br />
Given that the whole situation at the time was already being approached with a degree of caution on my behalf &#8211; for obvious reasons &#8211; this behaviour set the seal on what followed.</p>
<p>&#8220;2-You are sure that you are right but that doesn’t imply that everybody else sees evidence in your suspicion.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can fully understand that &#8211; but it is my right to insist that a situation is seen as thoroughly and with an equally serious disposition as I applied to it &#8211; which is too much to expect from any outsider &#8211; especially those considering themselves already as &#8220;insiders&#8221; &#8211; because of nationality and an aptitude for contempt.</p>
<p>&#8220;3-If you know anything about the internet and its social aspects you are well aware that i can throw shit at you for years and i will be an annoying thug but you have been annoying a consistent number of people, earning a much worse degree in trolling and harassing. Remember that one single murder gets a smaller punishment than a mass murder or a genocide.&#8221;</p>
<p>The simple reason is this &#8211; a consistent number of people &#8211; in a concerted effort against one solitary person &#8211; is bullying.<br />
I will not be subdued by bullying.</p>
<p>&#8220;4-After behaving like an arrogant paranoidiot with all the critics and the skeptics, you can’t get away with it just talking about taking sides and intimidation. I have tried to look at your story from your perspective and with the advantage of having a much better knowledge of the Philippines country and people than yours but you haven’t convinced me at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>You believe you.<br />
Then you haven&#8217;t tried hard enough.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Non-Filipino Views on Tim Cumper by Amy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 03:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Mayen Betita, A Filipina Who Learned a Painful Lesson by Briscolone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briscolone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replying to the first of your last couple of posts:
Teaching somebody to triple-check a website before using his credit card or giving away his personal data, teaching somebody not to trust emails from nigerian lawyers, teaching somebody to do some kind of research on things related to the web activities is teaching some kind of paranoia that is very useful to avoid some problems. And it is good to be aware of those things.
In your case you clearly showed from the start a different form of paranoia, because you left your country with the &quot;i&#039;ll be scammed&quot; idea rocking and rolling in your mind and you adapted lots of events to fit your jigsaw of scam and corruption.
When you were back and the blogging saga started your paranoia increased to the point of including an army of people to your supposed scam attempt, creating an organized crime syndicate where there could have been just a bad luck case.

1-You can&#039;t decide how other people in another country deal with their problems, you can&#039;t pretend that a foreign hospital&#039;s staff jumps when you push a button when they owe absolutely nothing to you. They can be astonishingly rough to their own people so don&#039;t be surprised if they don&#039;t give a damn about you and your claims.

2-You are sure that you are right but that doesn&#039;t imply that everybody else sees evidence in your suspicion.

3-If you know anything about the internet and its social aspects you are well aware that i can throw shit at you for years and i will be an annoying thug but you have been annoying a consistent number of people, earning a much worse degree in trolling and harassing. Remember that one single murder gets a smaller punishment than a mass murder or a genocide.

4-After behaving like an arrogant paranoidiot with all the critics and the skeptics, you can&#039;t get away with it just talking about taking sides and intimidation. I have tried to look at your story from your perspective and with the advantage of having a much better knowledge of the Philippines country and people than yours but you haven&#039;t convinced me at all.

My bias is the son of your attitude and behaviour; you get what you deserve here. Were you less arrogant and ready to cry conspiracy, were you more open to criticism and able to accept that there is and there will always be who doesn&#039;t believe you, you wouldn&#039;t have got into this deep puddle of webshit.

I don&#039;t have a particular commitment and i ain&#039;t obsessed, thanx all the gods for that; my only requirement is that you publicly apologize for your stupid behaviour, spamming, accusing lots of people of being part of a crime syndicate that probably exists only in your dreams, delete the offending material you posted against people who i don&#039;t even know.
If you do that, stop twittering like a fool, stop all this conspiracy bullshit, on my side i will publicly apologize for calling you names and, even though i have no power on what other netizens do, i&#039;ll try to contact a few of them that are probably easy to get in touch with through their blogs asking them to do the same &quot;content removal&quot;. But i can&#039;t say that they will grant my request because we don&#039;t even know each other.

What do i think is the best way forward from here? What i said above, then you can go on doing your job of warning people against the scam risk in dragonladies. That is, in my humble opinion, absolutely acceptable even though i don&#039;t practice scambaiting.

Now reply to the second of your last couple of posts:
You should really go to spend some time with some Pinoy people in their country to understand that you can&#039;t generalize them the way lots of articles (like the one you copyandpasted) do.
I know about those aspects like the brown skin complex, the crab mentality, the defensive behaviour and the need to identify with some kind of hero but i can say, and no way you can contradict me on this subject, that if you ever make some friends even in a thugs infested squatter area in Metro Manila where you can be knifed for a wristwatch or cellphone, if you have an open conversation with them without telling them bullshit about how good west is and how desperately their country sucks, if you can drink a few beers and have a laugh with them without always complaining about something (as the kanos usually do) then there will be somebody who will stand up with his fists or a knife or whatever it takes to protect you from every kind of harm.
There will be a bunch of people grabbing you and pulling you away if you are going in some place that is really too dangerous for you.
There will be somebody who will risk to be arrested shouting in a policeman&#039;s face because you are caught in some stupid situation.
But you are a guest there and you are the first one who HAS TO be humble and friendly to them. A foreigner can be deported and banned forever from the Phils for open criticism against the government or institutions. You may dislike that but it&#039;s THEIR country so you can stay in London and call your queen names but don&#039;t do the same in Manila.
There are places in my country where you risk your life and probably nobody gives a fuck about you being knifed for your wallet, they won&#039;t probably call an ambulance or the police to avoid being questioned about something. No doubt the same happens in some parts of the UK or any big city in the usa.
So i think i&#039;d be happier to be in trouble in the Phils with some friends around than in London or Naples or Los Angeles.
From what i gathered reading your blog you probably went there with an excessive thinking about money and business and of course you made no friends there; otherwise you&#039;d have been assisted in all the trouble that came later, you can believe me on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replying to the first of your last couple of posts:<br />
Teaching somebody to triple-check a website before using his credit card or giving away his personal data, teaching somebody not to trust emails from nigerian lawyers, teaching somebody to do some kind of research on things related to the web activities is teaching some kind of paranoia that is very useful to avoid some problems. And it is good to be aware of those things.<br />
In your case you clearly showed from the start a different form of paranoia, because you left your country with the &#8220;i&#8217;ll be scammed&#8221; idea rocking and rolling in your mind and you adapted lots of events to fit your jigsaw of scam and corruption.<br />
When you were back and the blogging saga started your paranoia increased to the point of including an army of people to your supposed scam attempt, creating an organized crime syndicate where there could have been just a bad luck case.</p>
<p>1-You can&#8217;t decide how other people in another country deal with their problems, you can&#8217;t pretend that a foreign hospital&#8217;s staff jumps when you push a button when they owe absolutely nothing to you. They can be astonishingly rough to their own people so don&#8217;t be surprised if they don&#8217;t give a damn about you and your claims.</p>
<p>2-You are sure that you are right but that doesn&#8217;t imply that everybody else sees evidence in your suspicion.</p>
<p>3-If you know anything about the internet and its social aspects you are well aware that i can throw shit at you for years and i will be an annoying thug but you have been annoying a consistent number of people, earning a much worse degree in trolling and harassing. Remember that one single murder gets a smaller punishment than a mass murder or a genocide.</p>
<p>4-After behaving like an arrogant paranoidiot with all the critics and the skeptics, you can&#8217;t get away with it just talking about taking sides and intimidation. I have tried to look at your story from your perspective and with the advantage of having a much better knowledge of the Philippines country and people than yours but you haven&#8217;t convinced me at all.</p>
<p>My bias is the son of your attitude and behaviour; you get what you deserve here. Were you less arrogant and ready to cry conspiracy, were you more open to criticism and able to accept that there is and there will always be who doesn&#8217;t believe you, you wouldn&#8217;t have got into this deep puddle of webshit.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a particular commitment and i ain&#8217;t obsessed, thanx all the gods for that; my only requirement is that you publicly apologize for your stupid behaviour, spamming, accusing lots of people of being part of a crime syndicate that probably exists only in your dreams, delete the offending material you posted against people who i don&#8217;t even know.<br />
If you do that, stop twittering like a fool, stop all this conspiracy bullshit, on my side i will publicly apologize for calling you names and, even though i have no power on what other netizens do, i&#8217;ll try to contact a few of them that are probably easy to get in touch with through their blogs asking them to do the same &#8220;content removal&#8221;. But i can&#8217;t say that they will grant my request because we don&#8217;t even know each other.</p>
<p>What do i think is the best way forward from here? What i said above, then you can go on doing your job of warning people against the scam risk in dragonladies. That is, in my humble opinion, absolutely acceptable even though i don&#8217;t practice scambaiting.</p>
<p>Now reply to the second of your last couple of posts:<br />
You should really go to spend some time with some Pinoy people in their country to understand that you can&#8217;t generalize them the way lots of articles (like the one you copyandpasted) do.<br />
I know about those aspects like the brown skin complex, the crab mentality, the defensive behaviour and the need to identify with some kind of hero but i can say, and no way you can contradict me on this subject, that if you ever make some friends even in a thugs infested squatter area in Metro Manila where you can be knifed for a wristwatch or cellphone, if you have an open conversation with them without telling them bullshit about how good west is and how desperately their country sucks, if you can drink a few beers and have a laugh with them without always complaining about something (as the kanos usually do) then there will be somebody who will stand up with his fists or a knife or whatever it takes to protect you from every kind of harm.<br />
There will be a bunch of people grabbing you and pulling you away if you are going in some place that is really too dangerous for you.<br />
There will be somebody who will risk to be arrested shouting in a policeman&#8217;s face because you are caught in some stupid situation.<br />
But you are a guest there and you are the first one who HAS TO be humble and friendly to them. A foreigner can be deported and banned forever from the Phils for open criticism against the government or institutions. You may dislike that but it&#8217;s THEIR country so you can stay in London and call your queen names but don&#8217;t do the same in Manila.<br />
There are places in my country where you risk your life and probably nobody gives a fuck about you being knifed for your wallet, they won&#8217;t probably call an ambulance or the police to avoid being questioned about something. No doubt the same happens in some parts of the UK or any big city in the usa.<br />
So i think i&#8217;d be happier to be in trouble in the Phils with some friends around than in London or Naples or Los Angeles.<br />
From what i gathered reading your blog you probably went there with an excessive thinking about money and business and of course you made no friends there; otherwise you&#8217;d have been assisted in all the trouble that came later, you can believe me on this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome to the Tim Cumper Watch! by ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People often ask which came first - the chicken or the egg.

It is painfully clear in this instance, that the stinking egg of propaganda initiated the response - which this same propaganda is now electing as its raison d&#039;etre.

It is strikingly obvious, therefore, that the egg has gradually altered its original smell. 

The original aim of this propaganda, to which this site is merely a recent addition, was to distill or obscure a story  - a story containing incriminating speculation.

Rather than deal with the issue of incrimination in the normally expected manner - by directly supplying adequate proof of innocence -  the decision was made to enlist the help of people, expert in manipulation of the media, to tackle the issue head on.
The nature of the story being such, that with suitable distortion of the facts, it would attract viral condemnation for its author  - and achieve the original aim of obscuration, conveniently masking that the whole idea was launched - purely as a strategic business decision - and not as the result of a moral outrage, which it will appear to be to the naive reader.

I can assure every reader of this website - that if you study the original story - you will detect through all the copious detail - a strong thread of unexplained inconsistencies, coincidences, anomalies and behaviour - which all contributed to the perfectly justified caution which I adopted.

This simple caution has been twisted and misrepresented by the propaganda machine - as part of an obvious incitement, to garner support - allowing it to achieve the totally fake veneer of consensus.

It has been a total manipulation of the medium of the Internet - by those with the appropriate skills and networks.

It has been a total manipulation of your minds - the readers and supporters of this propaganda.

You have been suckered in by its lies - by its false accusations and exaggerations.

You have allowed hatred to blind your vision.

You have been abused by the people key to this orchestrated campaign of propaganda.

That is the truth.
Whether or not you respect that truth is down to yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People often ask which came first &#8211; the chicken or the egg.</p>
<p>It is painfully clear in this instance, that the stinking egg of propaganda initiated the response &#8211; which this same propaganda is now electing as its raison d&#8217;etre.</p>
<p>It is strikingly obvious, therefore, that the egg has gradually altered its original smell. </p>
<p>The original aim of this propaganda, to which this site is merely a recent addition, was to distill or obscure a story  &#8211; a story containing incriminating speculation.</p>
<p>Rather than deal with the issue of incrimination in the normally expected manner &#8211; by directly supplying adequate proof of innocence &#8211;  the decision was made to enlist the help of people, expert in manipulation of the media, to tackle the issue head on.<br />
The nature of the story being such, that with suitable distortion of the facts, it would attract viral condemnation for its author  &#8211; and achieve the original aim of obscuration, conveniently masking that the whole idea was launched &#8211; purely as a strategic business decision &#8211; and not as the result of a moral outrage, which it will appear to be to the naive reader.</p>
<p>I can assure every reader of this website &#8211; that if you study the original story &#8211; you will detect through all the copious detail &#8211; a strong thread of unexplained inconsistencies, coincidences, anomalies and behaviour &#8211; which all contributed to the perfectly justified caution which I adopted.</p>
<p>This simple caution has been twisted and misrepresented by the propaganda machine &#8211; as part of an obvious incitement, to garner support &#8211; allowing it to achieve the totally fake veneer of consensus.</p>
<p>It has been a total manipulation of the medium of the Internet &#8211; by those with the appropriate skills and networks.</p>
<p>It has been a total manipulation of your minds &#8211; the readers and supporters of this propaganda.</p>
<p>You have been suckered in by its lies &#8211; by its false accusations and exaggerations.</p>
<p>You have allowed hatred to blind your vision.</p>
<p>You have been abused by the people key to this orchestrated campaign of propaganda.</p>
<p>That is the truth.<br />
Whether or not you respect that truth is down to yourselves.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome to the Tim Cumper Watch! by ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 06:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michelle - I&#039;m fortunate - I don&#039;t need reasons to laugh - I just laugh.
Fly back to the swarm now - your queen has more missions for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michelle &#8211; I&#8217;m fortunate &#8211; I don&#8217;t need reasons to laugh &#8211; I just laugh.<br />
Fly back to the swarm now &#8211; your queen has more missions for you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mayen Betita, A Filipina Who Learned a Painful Lesson by ellumbra</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellumbra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 04:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A pertinent quote which explains how a) The propaganda was so predictable. b) Support for the propaganda is so predictable.

Innate, defensive behaviour is of more importance than discovering the truth.

&quot;The Philippines has had a long and tumultuous past, marked with colonialism and the endless search for true identity. Because the country spent so many years under colonial rule, the Filipinos were often left feeling like helpless victims. In fact, it is believed that one of the main reasons it seemed so easy for Spain to colonize the Philippines was because the Filipino people were awfully kind, forgiving, and subservient. It is because of this past that, until today, there remains a class hierarchy, as well as a struggle between the rich and the poor. As such, it is no surprise that among the many unique traits in Filipino culture is that of the “api” mentality, or, in English, the “victim” mentality.

The api mentality in Filipino culture is rooted in a strong sense of paranoia, or the undeniable feeling of inferiority. Perhaps it is only logical to blame the country’s past for this Filipino weakness, as it is still found in the psyche of many Filipinos today. 

You might often hear the phrase “Parang ina-api ako,” which, in English, means, “I feel as though I’m being looked down upon,” or “I feel like I’m being treated like an insignificant person.” What this really means is that the api mentality makes Filipinos believe that they are being maltreated in whatever situation may be at hand, when in truth, it is merely their paranoia that is causing this belief. Another situation in which the api mentality may occur is when Filipinos grant the “pity” vote to other Filipinos. This means that there is a strong sense of empathy and sympathy for others, and that the person who is more of a “victim” is granted the favored vote, simply because he or she is suffering more.

Among the favorite pastimes of many Filipinos is watching television and engaging in the local shows that appear on it. Filipinos also enjoy reading Pinoy novels, which, in truth, share similar traits to those of the television series’. Within both the television series and the novel, one can find that the api mentality is a common theme that occurs, as it stirs much emotion, sympathy, and even attachment to certain characters who suffer as the victims of whatever the circumstance may be. In the teleserye, for instance, a common theme in a love story is the relationship between a wealthy character and a poor character. As their relationship grows, the poor character begins to feel as though he or she is being looked down upon by the family of the wealthy character.
The api mentality is certainly a trait of the Filipino people that many may view as a weakness. However, it is also of essence to recognize that the Filipino people take kindly to victims because it is an accompanying trait of the Filipino to be sensitive and sympathetic toward others’ circumstances.&quot;

Quoted from  -http://www.dailyrandomsites.com/examining-the-api-mentality-in-filipino-culture/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pertinent quote which explains how a) The propaganda was so predictable. b) Support for the propaganda is so predictable.</p>
<p>Innate, defensive behaviour is of more importance than discovering the truth.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Philippines has had a long and tumultuous past, marked with colonialism and the endless search for true identity. Because the country spent so many years under colonial rule, the Filipinos were often left feeling like helpless victims. In fact, it is believed that one of the main reasons it seemed so easy for Spain to colonize the Philippines was because the Filipino people were awfully kind, forgiving, and subservient. It is because of this past that, until today, there remains a class hierarchy, as well as a struggle between the rich and the poor. As such, it is no surprise that among the many unique traits in Filipino culture is that of the “api” mentality, or, in English, the “victim” mentality.</p>
<p>The api mentality in Filipino culture is rooted in a strong sense of paranoia, or the undeniable feeling of inferiority. Perhaps it is only logical to blame the country’s past for this Filipino weakness, as it is still found in the psyche of many Filipinos today. </p>
<p>You might often hear the phrase “Parang ina-api ako,” which, in English, means, “I feel as though I’m being looked down upon,” or “I feel like I’m being treated like an insignificant person.” What this really means is that the api mentality makes Filipinos believe that they are being maltreated in whatever situation may be at hand, when in truth, it is merely their paranoia that is causing this belief. Another situation in which the api mentality may occur is when Filipinos grant the “pity” vote to other Filipinos. This means that there is a strong sense of empathy and sympathy for others, and that the person who is more of a “victim” is granted the favored vote, simply because he or she is suffering more.</p>
<p>Among the favorite pastimes of many Filipinos is watching television and engaging in the local shows that appear on it. Filipinos also enjoy reading Pinoy novels, which, in truth, share similar traits to those of the television series’. Within both the television series and the novel, one can find that the api mentality is a common theme that occurs, as it stirs much emotion, sympathy, and even attachment to certain characters who suffer as the victims of whatever the circumstance may be. In the teleserye, for instance, a common theme in a love story is the relationship between a wealthy character and a poor character. As their relationship grows, the poor character begins to feel as though he or she is being looked down upon by the family of the wealthy character.<br />
The api mentality is certainly a trait of the Filipino people that many may view as a weakness. However, it is also of essence to recognize that the Filipino people take kindly to victims because it is an accompanying trait of the Filipino to be sensitive and sympathetic toward others’ circumstances.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quoted from  -http://www.dailyrandomsites.com/examining-the-api-mentality-in-filipino-culture/</p>
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